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Memphis was so close to winning. Now we have to lose the Dallas game.

Split T wrote:I was talking jahlil not emeka. Let's just hope we get a top 2 pick and don't have to worry about it.

Oh, I can’t argue on that one. He’s not even the Okafor I think of when someone brings him up obviously

specialsauce wrote:Sure but I don’t look at it in a vacuum like that. Last year Fultz, Jackson, Ball, Fox all had good production in college. Then you saw Isaac get drafted on potential and I think that is a similar drop in tiers this year with Ayton, Doncic, Bagley all being extremely productive. If you go Bamba or JJJ at 4 that is a huge drop off in proven production to me. At that point you’re drafting potential and that’s where it becomes incredibly hit or miss

Excellent post, clear and simple... hopefully the FO consider the “Drafted on Potential” slots full and go for some safer picks, at least the highest two of them.

Davis is such a stud. 33 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks. Such a not-deep team; they really only had 3 guys score in any volume (Mirotic 31, Holiday 22) but it was still more than enough to beat us.

Jackson has gotten to the point where he can put up 20 points and 7-8 boards or assists in a given night, which is really nice to see. But you can't help but be concerned about the 7-24 shooting, 0-4 on threes. I also thought Ulis and Bender had solid stat lines tonight. I'm always happy when I check the box score and see that Bender didn't go 1-for-8 or whatever he's been doing lately.

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975935

Josh needs to get stronger, improve his jump shot., and be aware of when to turn on the jets and when not to.

Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I wouldn't cry if LeBron got the 1st pick and PHX was #2. Whatever is left from Doncic-Ayton suits me.

Ring_Wanted wrote:

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I wouldn't cry if LeBron got the 1st pick and PHX was #2. Whatever is left from Doncic-Ayton suits me.

Yeah, but that's just not right. Cleveland has had the #1 pick waaaaaay too many times and recently too.

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I'm curious, what is the point of these simulations? The percentages for each pick are known, run the sim enough times and that's what you'll get. Unless their rng is broken.

Hermen wrote:

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I'm curious, what is the point of these simulations? The percentages for each pick are known, run the sim enough times and that's what you'll get. Unless their rng is broken.

self-flagellation

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:

specialsauce wrote:Sure but I don’t look at it in a vacuum like that. Last year Fultz, Jackson, Ball, Fox all had good production in college. Then you saw Isaac get drafted on potential and I think that is a similar drop in tiers this year with Ayton, Doncic, Bagley all being extremely productive. If you go Bamba or JJJ at 4 that is a huge drop off in proven production to me. At that point you’re drafting potential and that’s where it becomes incredibly hit or miss

Excellent post, clear and simple... hopefully the FO consider the “Drafted on Potential” slots full and go for some safer picks, at least the highest two of them.

That's just about valuing offense over defense. To say that Bamba is not a proven and productive college player ... I think you're just looking at scoring.

Superbone wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I wouldn't cry if LeBron got the 1st pick and PHX was #2. Whatever is left from Doncic-Ayton suits me.

Yeah, but that's just not right. Cleveland has had the #1 pick waaaaaay too many times and recently too.

Cleveland only wins the lottery when they send Dan Gilbert’s special son to the lottery. But he’s recovering from brain surgery now so I doubt he will represent the Cavs at the lotto meaning no soup for them.

n4th4n wrote:

Hermen wrote:

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I'm curious, what is the point of these simulations? The percentages for each pick are known, run the sim enough times and that's what you'll get. Unless their rng is broken.

self-flagellation

n4th4n gets it.

Superbone wrote:

n4th4n wrote:

Hermen wrote:

Superbone wrote:Just did a sim that made me throw up in my mouth a little. Sure we got first but Brooklyn moved up 5 spots into second and of course that pick conveys to Cleveland.

I'm curious, what is the point of these simulations? The percentages for each pick are known, run the sim enough times and that's what you'll get. Unless their rng is broken.

self-flagellation

n4th4n gets it.

Also, I never understood the point of mock drafts when the order of the first 14 picks has yet to be determined.

It's just to give you an idea of where prospects will be selected and how they compare to one another. It's not meant to be taken as a guaranteed prediction.

Ya team specific mock draft are a little pointless, but getting an overall idea of where prospects might go is useful.

I'm not holding my breath but so far the Grizzlies have been able to stay ahead of the Pistons into the fourth quarter now. Currently up 12 with 9:45 to go.

Superbone wrote:I'm not holding my breath but so far the Grizzlies have been able to stay ahead of the Pistons into the fourth quarter now.

Up by 12. It would be amazing if they pull out the win.

EDC wrote:

Superbone wrote:I'm not holding my breath but so far the Grizzlies have been able to stay ahead of the Pistons into the fourth quarter now.

Up by 12. It would be amazing if they pull out the win.

Heh, just updated my post before seeing yours. Yep!

So if we clinch the top spot today, do we see Booker and Warren on Tuesday against the Mavs?