Around the League: 2018 Offseason

[O_Gardino]

ESPN is reporting that Paul George has notified OKC that he will opt out of his contract and will become a UFA. Sounds like he's gone.

OKC really botched their post-Durant rebuild. They got 1 year of George, and now they're stuck with the decaying corpse of Melo at huge money. I heard on the Zach Lowe podcast that their payroll could be north of $200m for next season with a big luxury tax hit. All for a mediocre team that did nothing in the playoffs. That is one of the rosters in the whole league that I'd least like to have.

A couple of bad moves can really cripple a team.

They've been fairly good on draft night and got a great haul for Ibaka. But the Harden trade was horrible and sending Oladipo and Sabonis for one year of PG13 was crazy.

[Split T]

ESPN is reporting that Paul George has notified OKC that he will opt out of his contract and will become a UFA. Sounds like he's gone.

OKC really botched their post-Durant rebuild. They got 1 year of George, and now they're stuck with the decaying corpse of Melo at huge money. I heard on the Zach Lowe podcast that their payroll could be north of $200m for next season with a big luxury tax hit. All for a mediocre team that did nothing in the playoffs. That is one of the rosters in the whole league that I'd least like to have.

A couple of bad moves can really cripple a team.

They've been fairly good on draft night and got a great haul for Ibaka. But the Harden trade was horrible and sending Oladipo and Sabonis for one year of PG13 was crazy.

Most people thought they got a steal in the oladipo-pg13 trade. People couldn't believe Indy traded him for so little. In retrospect, oladipo was the better player this year, but hard to fault OKC. Oladipo made a huge leap.

[O_Gardino]

ESPN is reporting that Paul George has notified OKC that he will opt out of his contract and will become a UFA. Sounds like he's gone.

OKC really botched their post-Durant rebuild. They got 1 year of George, and now they're stuck with the decaying corpse of Melo at huge money. I heard on the Zach Lowe podcast that their payroll could be north of $200m for next season with a big luxury tax hit. All for a mediocre team that did nothing in the playoffs. That is one of the rosters in the whole league that I'd least like to have.

A couple of bad moves can really cripple a team.

They've been fairly good on draft night and got a great haul for Ibaka. But the Harden trade was horrible and sending Oladipo and Sabonis for one year of PG13 was crazy.

Most people thought they got a steal in the oladipo-pg13 trade. People couldn't believe Indy traded him for so little. In retrospect, oladipo was the better player this year, but hard to fault OKC. Oladipo made a huge leap.

Same with the Harden trade. It was very defensible at the time. Still, they made mistakes with some very good players. I wonder how history would be different if they had opted to keep Harden over Westbrook way back then.

[Cap]

VanVleet can shoot; he's a good 3-point shooter. Mack is a mediocre shooter. And let's not talk about what I want. What I want is for the Suns to stay away from this abysmal free agent class. But it isn't about what I want. So under the unfortunate preferences of our questionable management, I'm just trying to find some decent options with some value.

I agree; I don't see any FAs who I would want us to sign. I kind of like Aaron Gordon, but I don't think I'd want him at the price he will probably cost. I think if we want a veteran PF, I would rather trade Cleveland for Kevin Love after Lebron leaves them and they switch into full rebuild mode.

INF, dunno if you posted this already in another thread, but do you have any players you'd like the Suns to target in trades?

We have one week to try to find something useful to do with that cap room. If we don’t find it, we should pick up the option on Williams.

[Mori Chu]

Same with the Harden trade. It was very defensible at the time. Still, they made mistakes with some very good players. I wonder how history would be different if they had opted to keep Harden over Westbrook way back then.

[In2ition]

ESPN is reporting that Paul George has notified OKC that he will opt out of his contract and will become a UFA. Sounds like he's gone.

OKC really botched their post-Durant rebuild. They got 1 year of George, and now they're stuck with the decaying corpse of Melo at huge money. I heard on the Zach Lowe podcast that their payroll could be north of $200m for next season with a big luxury tax hit. All for a mediocre team that did nothing in the playoffs. That is one of the rosters in the whole league that I'd least like to have.

A couple of bad moves can really cripple a team.

They've been fairly good on draft night and got a great haul for Ibaka. But the Harden trade was horrible and sending Oladipo and Sabonis for one year of PG13 was crazy.

Most people thought they got a steal in the oladipo-pg13 trade. People couldn't believe Indy traded him for so little. In retrospect, oladipo was the better player this year, but hard to fault OKC. Oladipo made a huge leap.

Same with the Harden trade. It was very defensible at the time. Still, they made mistakes with some very good players. I wonder how history would be different if they had opted to keep Harden over Westbrook way back then.

I wonder if they regret not paying everyone? Could have kept this thing going, but finances and $ became the #1 goal. They could have learned from the SSOL Suns. If you can't keep successful young talent together because of money, then you shouldn't own a NBA franchise, because you aren't trying to win and instead you are trying to balance the books. The payoff comes when you sell the team for 10x what you paid for it.

[Indy]

Sonics/OKC literally drafted 3 MVPs in back to back to back drafts. And they have nothing to show for it. Ouch.

[Split T]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1012383243100975104

[Indy]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1012383243100975104

Please let this be true instead of us. Please, please, please.

[Split T]

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/1012385163937009665

[Superbone]

Sonics/OKC literally drafted 3 MVPs in back to back to back drafts. And they have nothing to show for it. Ouch.

Wow, that is unbelievable. And yet only one remains.

[Bucktastic365]

Sonics/OKC literally drafted 3 MVPs in back to back to back drafts. And they have nothing to show for it. Ouch.

Wow, that is unbelievable. And yet only one remains.

And the worst one of the 3 at that

[Indy]

Sonics/OKC literally drafted 3 MVPs in back to back to back drafts. And they have nothing to show for it. Ouch.

Wow, that is unbelievable. And yet only one remains.

And the worst one of the 3 at that

Worst person, player or teammate? I think those are 3 different guys.

Best Player
KD
Russ
Harden

Best Teammate
Harden
KD
Russ

Best Person
I have no idea

[Bucktastic365]

Sonics/OKC literally drafted 3 MVPs in back to back to back drafts. And they have nothing to show for it. Ouch.

Wow, that is unbelievable. And yet only one remains.

And the worst one of the 3 at that

Worst person, player or teammate? I think those are 3 different guys.

Best Player
KD
Russ
Harden

Best Teammate
Harden
KD
Russ

Best Person
I have no idea

I should have clarified. There’s no denying Westbrook’s talent, but as a teammate he has much to be desired, imho of course.

[INFORMER]

I wouldn't mind being the facilitator for Kawhi to LAL:

Suns get: Kyle Kuzma, Luol Deng, Paul Gasol
Spurs get: Tyson Chandler, Brandon Ingram, TJ Warren, Josh Hart, MIL protected 1st rounder, PHX protected 1st rounder, LAL future 1st rounder
Lakers get: Kawhi Leonard, Brandon Knight, Marquesse Chriss, Tyler Ulis

[Shabazz]

We’re giving up all that and taking on Deng and Gasol’s contracts just to get Kuzma???

[Ring_Wanted]

I guess it works if you want to get your GM fired on the spot ahah.

[TOO]

Ick.

[specialsauce]

I wouldn't mind being the facilitator for Kawhi to LAL:

Suns get: Kyle Kuzma, Luol Deng, Paul Gasol
Spurs get: Tyson Chandler, Brandon Ingram, TJ Warren, Josh Hart, MIL protected 1st rounder, PHX protected 1st rounder, LAL future 1st rounder
Lakers get: Kawhi Leonard, Brandon Knight, Marquesse Chriss, Tyler Ulis

Dude, what??

TJ Warren and two first round picks for Kuzma and a bunch of dead weight?

[Wally_West]

I wouldn't mind being the facilitator for Kawhi to LAL:

Suns get: Kyle Kuzma, Luol Deng, Paul Gasol
Spurs get: Tyson Chandler, Brandon Ingram, TJ Warren, Josh Hart, MIL protected 1st rounder, PHX protected 1st rounder, LAL future 1st rounder
Lakers get: Kawhi Leonard, Brandon Knight, Marquesse Chriss, Tyler Ulis

Good Ryan McDonough impression. 9/10.