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Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:20 pm
by bajanguy008
bajanguy008 wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:19 pm

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:30 pm
by Indy
bajanguy008 wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:20 pm
bajanguy008 wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:19 pm
Wait, were there more departures/changes than Willie leaving?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:55 pm
by bajanguy008
Not sure but


Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:08 pm
by Indy
Ah OK. I totally forgot about Brian Randle.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:14 pm
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:42 am
Split T wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:48 am
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:36 am
Please.

Nader is 15th man material.

Torrey Craig was a valuable member of the rotation through the playoffs. His defense rebounding and toughness will be missed.

Nader is awful on defense, low IQ, not .5 offense.
He’s our only wing that can attack the basket. He’s got his flaws, but he’s not a 15th man…
WRONG!!!!

Lol.
Well based on minutes, he was our 14th man last year, so you’re wrong actually. Lol

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:22 pm
by The Bobster
Split T wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:14 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:42 am
Split T wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:48 am
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:36 am
Please.

Nader is 15th man material.

Torrey Craig was a valuable member of the rotation through the playoffs. His defense rebounding and toughness will be missed.

Nader is awful on defense, low IQ, not .5 offense.
He’s our only wing that can attack the basket. He’s got his flaws, but he’s not a 15th man…
WRONG!!!!

Lol.
Well based on minutes, he was our 14th man last year, so you’re wrong actually. Lol
12th in minutes in the playoffs.

Neither of which is 15th.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:30 pm
by The Bobster
Of the offseason moves, I like most of them. Losing Craig kind of stings, and re-signing Kaminsky is a "meh" move, but I like Nader, and think that Shamet will be a better fit than Carter, but they still need another dependable big man in addition to McGee.

Re-signing Paul and Payne were the big moves, and I'm still trying to figure out how they got Payne so cheaply. It would be nice to be able to swing a deal, but who do you deal? Crowder? Johnson? Or can you persuade someone to take Saric's contract as part of a deal?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:45 pm
by Indy
The Bobster wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:30 pm
Of the offseason moves, I like most of them. Losing Craig kind of stings, and re-signing Kaminsky is a "meh" move, but I like Nader, and think that Shamet will be a better fit than Carter, but they still need another dependable big man in addition to McGee.

Re-singing Paul and Payne were the big moves, and I'm still trying to figure out how they got Payne so cheaply. It would be nice to be able to swing a deal, but who do you deal? Crowder? Johnson? Or can you persuade someone to take Saric's contract as part of a deal?
I still wish we had someone at the end of the bench that could hound a 1-3 full court for a handful of possessions each half. I know you only play 7-8 guys in the playoffs, but it is so helpful to have one of those guys in each category (guard, wing, big) that just changes the pace of the game, even if just for 2 minutes when you really need it.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:37 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:14 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:42 am
Split T wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:48 am
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:36 am
Please.

Nader is 15th man material.

Torrey Craig was a valuable member of the rotation through the playoffs. His defense rebounding and toughness will be missed.

Nader is awful on defense, low IQ, not .5 offense.
He’s our only wing that can attack the basket. He’s got his flaws, but he’s not a 15th man…
WRONG!!!!

Lol.
Well based on minutes, he was our 14th man last year, so you’re wrong actually. Lol
Lol

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:19 pm
by Superbone
The NO trio has been reunited.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:59 am
by Flagrant Fowl

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:13 am
by Shabazz
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:59 am
I was actually hoping Young would push for a buyout. He’d be pretty perfect.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:14 am
by Flagrant Fowl
Thad Young is well sought after, so don’t think the Spurs would buy him out until mid-season if at all.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:26 am
by ShelC
Feels like KLove is going to be a name to watch but just not sure how much he has left. Skills-wise he's perfect to play next to DA or play the 5. He may actually prefer a more limited role at this point. Thad would be ideal tho.

If Thad is bought out, would we be able to use the rest of the MLE to get him to sign with us over another team?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:30 am
by ShelC
Indy wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:45 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:30 pm
Of the offseason moves, I like most of them. Losing Craig kind of stings, and re-signing Kaminsky is a "meh" move, but I like Nader, and think that Shamet will be a better fit than Carter, but they still need another dependable big man in addition to McGee.

Re-singing Paul and Payne were the big moves, and I'm still trying to figure out how they got Payne so cheaply. It would be nice to be able to swing a deal, but who do you deal? Crowder? Johnson? Or can you persuade someone to take Saric's contract as part of a deal?
I still wish we had someone at the end of the bench that could hound a 1-3 full court for a handful of possessions each half. I know you only play 7-8 guys in the playoffs, but it is so helpful to have one of those guys in each category (guard, wing, big) that just changes the pace of the game, even if just for 2 minutes when you really need it.
I don't love that we're missing those guys now. I think Monty likes a very steady style of play similar to the Spurs, but sometimes you need those balls-to-the-wall energy guys. Carter and Craig gave us that look and we haven't replaced them (yet). Even if it's just 2-3 minutes in a half, those guys can change the complexion of a game and get their team out of a funk with energy plays - deflections that lead to transition baskets, taking charges, a weakside block, etc.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:42 am
by Split T
Thad Young would be great

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:17 pm
by MightyMoog
Kevin Love would be a perfect replacement for Dario, can pretty much do everything Dario did, but hopefully a little better. If he’s bought out, he could be a great bargain for a 1 year replacement. He’ll also look great doing it and will increase his own value.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:43 pm
by Split T
MightyMoog wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:17 pm
Kevin Love would be a perfect replacement for Dario, can pretty much do everything Dario did, but hopefully a little better. If he’s bought out, he could be a great bargain for a 1 year replacement. He’ll also look great doing it and will increase his own value.
I’m not convinced he’s got anything left. He’d be great if he was healthy and playing at a level close to where he was a few years ago.

Thad also provides a lot of what Saric does. He’s not the shooter Love is..or even Saric, but he is a better defender than both and I think he’s the better playmaker of the 3. He can play small ball 5 and the 4.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:53 pm
by Cap
I don’t see how we could trade for Young.

I guess Saric and Johnson works salary-wise, but do we like that?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:56 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:53 pm
I don’t see how we could trade for Young.

I guess Saric and Johnson works salary wise, but do we like that?
Saric/Smith/Pick