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Very sad. So many Americans have been radicalized by bad media and social media.

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Kill your father because he worked for the evil government. I wonder where he got that idea.
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Lol rekt.


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I read today that this ruling knocks him off #1 in the world in wealth. At least temporarily.
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Sounds like there is more to this story, than shareholders were being harmed. I know a lot of companies incorporate in Delaware, but I imagine that will change now.
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It must be a big conspiracy!

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Keep setting new precedents, and be so arrogant to think it won't come back against you. All this stuff is definitely not political, just a coincidence. How many coincidences until it's mathematically impossible? I think we've been well past anything that could be called a coincidence a long time ago.

Maybe I should just ask who is on the top of your hate list? I'll use that to predict who gets targeted next. Maybe there is some gambling site to make some money off of it.

Oh, and it turns out the shareholder that brought the suit owned a whole 9 shares of Tesla. Are you kidding me? What a joke.
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https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-rul ... 024-01-30/
Amit Batish at Equilar, an executive pay research firm, estimated in 2022 that Musk's package was around six times larger than the combined pay of the 200 highest-paid executives in 2021.
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What does that have to do with the ruling?




Before becoming the head of the Delaware Chancery Court, McCormick worked at a Delaware law firm called Young Conaway.

This firm and its employees have been major donors to President Joe Biden for decades.

In 2016, Hunter Biden hosted a gubernatorial campaign event for Congressman John Carney, with then-Vice President Joe Biden as the guest speaker.

This event took place at the Law Offices of Young Conaway in Wilmington, Delaware.

Carney, a close friend of Joe Biden for the last four decades, later became governor and nominated Kathaleen McCormick, a partner at Young Conaway, to her position on the Delaware Chancery Court.

In a March 2018 email, Hunter Biden claimed to personally know every judge on the Delaware Chancery Court while threatening legal action against his Chinese business partners.

"I will bring the suit in the Chancery court in Delaware - which as you know is my home state and I am privileged to have worked with and know every judge on the chancery court."

After Elon Musk purchased Twitter with the stated goal of restoring free-speech, President Biden called for a federal investigation into Musk on the podium at the White House.

Following this, the Biden Department of Justice, Securities and Exchange Commission, and Federal Trade Commission initiated legal actions and investigations against Tesla, SpaceX, and X.

This recent decision by Judge McCormick, who worked with Biden's top donors and was nominated by Biden's close friend, to override Tesla's board and the majority of its shareholders is another clear example of the Biden administration and its allies weaponizing the American legal system against their political opponents
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I don't really know whether the ruling is correct or whether Musk's compensation was fair. I found this article where the judge describes her reasoning:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/tesla-s ... ation.html
McCormick ruled that Tornetta had proved that Musk “controlled Tesla” and that the process leading to the board’s approval of his compensation was “deeply flawed.”

She wrote that Musk had “extensive ties” with the people who were negotiating for Tesla on the package, including members of management “who were beholden to Musk,” among them General Counsel Todd Maron, his former divorce attorney.

“There is no greater evidence of Musk’s status as a transaction-specific controller than the Board’s posture toward Musk during the process that led to the Grant,” McCormick wrote.

“Put simply, neither the Compensation Committee nor the Board acted in the best interests of the Company when negotiating Musk’s compensation plan. In fact, there is barely any evidence of negotiations at all,” she wrote. “Rather than negotiate against Musk with the mindset of a third party, the Compensation Committee worked alongside him, almost as an advisory body.”

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Whether it's fair or not, this article is biased in itself. Musk "controlled Tesla"? Ok, the judge is inserting her opinion. The board's approval of his compensation was "deeply flawed"? Another opinion by the judge, who was already biased.

Why would his former divorce attorney be beholden to Musk? Did he not get paid for his work? Is he getting paid by Musk to do this too?

When the compensation was based on impossible targets that he then met, it became a win win for all parties involved. Add to it that 80% of shareholders voted for it, seems that this judge caped in to save the day based on her own biases against Elon. It sounded like the compensation committee bet on the belief that he was never going to reach those goals/targets, because it was nearly unbeatable. Why negotiate something that they thought would never ever get met? It would be like a Mavs fan betting a Suns fan that the Mavs would win game 7 and give the Suns 30 points.

The article does nothing to convince me that it was fair or that the justice system wasn't weaponized against Elon. It's just another example of the MSM carrying water and running cover to convince the intellectually dishonest that "see, Biden isn't weaponizing the justice system against his enemies, like a dictator." I would expect nothing less from them.

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I don't really know enough about the particulars of the case to say whether Musk should get his $55b or not. I'm not sure I'll have enough time to read about it thoroughly enough to form an opinion.

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This reddit thread discusses the lawsuit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/kKMRFEx0eY

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Elon is just straight up racist now.


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Hey prof, can you show your work on how you came to the conclusion that what Elon said made him racist?
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I think that viewpoint is pretty standard with the GOP for many years. Long before Trump came along. Musk’s point is that the Dems aren’t letting them in because they care. He says/thinks the Dems are letting them in so they will vote Dem in future elections. I’m not sure that is racist as much as just another conspiracy theory.

I think of myself as a Moderate and the moderate me comes in the middle of the Dems and Cons stances on immigration. The Con stance seems to be don’t let anybody in and the Dem stance seems to be let everyone in. I know the truth is in the middle somewhere. We can’t let everyone in and some people really are trying to escape horrendous conditions that need help. The bipartisan plan sounds like it addressed a lot of problems like speeding up asylum cases by adding judges and personnel.

Some poll numbers show Hispanics liking Trump more than Biden. That kind of turns that conspiracy theory on its head. Biden’s poll numbers on immigration aren’t great though and he decided to come to the table and ask Republicans to help him fix the border. Even in this climate they crafted a bipartisan plan that did more than any other legislation in the past according to them. Trump the GOP leader caught wind of the plan and gave the order to scrap the legislation because it might make Biden look good and ruin all Trumps anti Biden immigration messaging. Like good minions Republicans scrapped the deal to stay on Trumps good side.

Musk a dumbass? Yes. A racist? Probably. Was this comment racist? I am not so sure. More conspiratorial to me than racist.
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I'll show my work. Elon is describing the "Great Replacement Theory," about a plot to replace a majority of whites with a majority of non-whites, which is widely agreed to be racist. Here's an article on it:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... t-violence


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That doesn't show anything. The great replacement theory has been a Dem position forever, and as soon as the Reps come out and say, "Hey, what do you think you are doing?", it's changed to "That’s racist!". When I first saw you post claiming his tweet is racist, I immediately thought that was extremely racist of you, but nah, it couldn't be racist to look for racism in everything.

Musk said nothing in that tweet that was racist, and a later tweet he talks about how such influxes affect census and redistricting. And in gerrymandering and you create many more Dem seats or turn a Rep seat into a Dem seat. Thereby creating a super majority and one party state that won't be changed for 25 yrs.
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In2ition wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:21 am
That doesn't show anything. The great replacement theory has been a Dem position forever, and as soon as the Reps come out and say, "Hey, what do you think you are doing?", it's changed to "That’s racist!". When I first saw you post claiming his tweet is racist, I immediately thought that was extremely racist of you, but nah, it couldn't be racist to look for racism in everything.

Musk said nothing in that tweet that was racist, and a later tweet he talks about how such influxes affect census and redistricting. And in gerrymandering and you create many more Dem seats or turn a Rep seat into a Dem seat. Thereby creating a super majority and one party state that won't be changed for 25 yrs.
The great replacement theory is a right wing conspiracy theory that started in France and took off in the US.

What is ‘great replacement theory’ and how does it fuel racist violence?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... t-violence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement

https://immigrationforum.org/wp-content ... r-1122.pdf
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