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Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:43 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:32 pm
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/1009866037913718785 https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/1009866335071825920
I don't think the draft has any bearing on the future of those guys. They are both reserves, and everybody knows it. They could be moved or cut to clear space durring free agency or to facilitate a trade, but Ayton and #16 are not changing the status of anybody on the team except Alex Len and Elfrid Payton.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:47 pm
by Split T
If we plan to do anything in free agency, I think they're both gone. Could come back on minimum deals. Feel bad for Williams. That injury was very untimely.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
by ShelC
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm
by TOO
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.
Why? Because he's nice?

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:28 pm
by Indy
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.
Why? Because he's nice?
Because one tries hard and plays smart, and the other is Chriss.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:30 pm
by ShelC
Thank you.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:33 pm
by TOO
Indy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:28 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.
Why? Because he's nice?
Because one tries hard and plays smart, and the other is Chriss.
One still has some upside and the other one will the be 3rd C making 5m. Easy decision really.

I like Sauce, but he has no place on this roster as it stands after adding Ayton. He can't shoot

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:36 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:33 pm
Indy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:28 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.
Why? Because he's nice?
Because one tries hard and plays smart, and the other is Chriss.
One still has some upside and the other one will the be 3rd C making 5m. Easy decision really.

I like Sauce, but he has no place on this roster as it stands after adding Ayton. He can't shoot
Best floater in the league from the center position.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:48 pm
by In2ition
Superbone wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:36 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:33 pm
Indy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:28 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:22 pm
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:57 pm
Wish we could keep Williams and get rid of Chriss.
Why? Because he's nice?
Because one tries hard and plays smart, and the other is Chriss.
One still has some upside and the other one will the be 3rd C making 5m. Easy decision really.

I like Sauce, but he has no place on this roster as it stands after adding Ayton. He can't shoot
Best floater in the league from the center position.
Big Floating Sauce

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:52 pm
by carey
I posted the article from BSotS last year on what made Sauce so important to our offense. He's more than just a good rebounder. He sets really good screens. Like elite level screens. The sole reason Ulis sucked last year was due to Alan's injury. Being as small as he is he relied heavily on the space Alan provided him. I think he's a bargain at $5M a year. I don't think Chandler is long for this team, but there's a chance they want to keep him around to mentor Ayton. Their games are radically different though.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:55 pm
by In2ition
carey wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:52 pm
I posted the article from BSotS last year on what made Sauce so important to our offense. He's more than just a good rebounder. He sets really good screens. Like elite level screens. The sole reason Ulis sucked last year was due to Alan's injury. Being as small as he is he relied heavily on the space Alan provided him. I think he's a bargain at $5M a year. I don't think Chandler is long for this team, but there's a chance they want to keep him around to mentor Ayton. Their games are radically different though.
Yeah, I like Williams as a third center. Ayton needs work on setting screens.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:05 pm
by Shabazz
Chandler is going to play 40 games next season. We need a 3rd center who can play unless we're giving Bender all of those minutes.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:29 pm
by Superbone
Yup, plus he's the best teammate ever. I hope we keep him around.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Chandler's mentorship is one of the most overrated things I've heard in a while. He's gone if the right deal comes a long, and if not he's a nice expiring contract.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:36 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm
Chandler's mentorship is one of the most overrated things I've heard in a while. He's gone if the right deal comes a long, and if not he's a nice expiring contract.
Somebody needs to teach Ayton proper defensive positioning but Kokoskov is more than capable of doing that.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:48 pm
by Superbone
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/1009921712501153792

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm
by ShelC
Whatever happened with Woodson? Did I miss something on that?

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:03 pm
by carey
ShelC wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm
Whatever happened with Woodson? Did I miss something on that?
Turned out to be just a rumor. Suns never addressed it.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:16 pm
by Split T
https://twitter.com/KellanOlson/status/1010017083566903303 What's the next step? I think we clear out some guys before FA. Ulis, Reed, Williams all have non guaranteed deals and I think they're gone.

PG - Knight, Okobo, Harrison
SG - Booker, Daniels
SF - Jackson, Warren, Bridges
PF - Bender, Chriss, Dudley
C - Ayton, Chandler

Don't see a lot of need for Daniels anymore. I could see him getting moved. Also dosent hurt to keep him as an 11th guy. I think you've got to move Warren. If we can combine him with Chriss for a solid vet at the 4, I'd be happy.

Feels like PG could be a target of FA unless we really think Knight is the answer. Would we go after Smart? We could also use Warren as trade bait for a PG and target vet 4's in FA.

Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:21 pm
by carey
We're not cutting Ulis until Booker's extension is inked.