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Meanwhile, Jordan Bell, Tyler Dorsey, and Dillon Brooks have been goving the Jayhawks the business. Jackson hasn't played well at all today.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Jordan Bell is a guy I think has some sleeper potential. He's a forward tweener who doesn't shoot outside of the paint, but he's an athletic freak who has progressively evolved his offensive skills. I could see him developing on a trajectory similar to Alan Williams or PJ Tucker where he goes undrafted but finds his way onto a roster and eventually becomes a rotation player.

Ahem.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Jordan Bell is a guy I think has some sleeper potential. He's a forward tweener who doesn't shoot outside of the paint, but he's an athletic freak who has progressively evolved his offensive skills. I could see him developing on a trajectory similar to Alan Williams or PJ Tucker where he goes undrafted but finds his way onto a roster and eventually becomes a rotation player.

Ahem.

The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Jordan Bell is a guy I think has some sleeper potential. He's a forward tweener who doesn't shoot outside of the paint, but he's an athletic freak who has progressively evolved his offensive skills. I could see him developing on a trajectory similar to Alan Williams or PJ Tucker where he goes undrafted but finds his way onto a roster and eventually becomes a rotation player.

Ahem.

The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Jordan Bell is a guy I think has some sleeper potential. He's a forward tweener who doesn't shoot outside of the paint, but he's an athletic freak who has progressively evolved his offensive skills. I could see him developing on a trajectory similar to Alan Williams or PJ Tucker where he goes undrafted but finds his way onto a roster and eventually becomes a rotation player.

Ahem.

The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Why do you think that?

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Jordan Bell is a guy I think has some sleeper potential. He's a forward tweener who doesn't shoot outside of the paint, but he's an athletic freak who has progressively evolved his offensive skills. I could see him developing on a trajectory similar to Alan Williams or PJ Tucker where he goes undrafted but finds his way onto a roster and eventually becomes a rotation player.

Ahem.

The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Why do you think that?

He's a skilled passer out of the high and low post, he can defend every position, and he hustles his ass off.

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Many thanks.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Ahem.

The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Why do you think that?

He's a skilled passer out of the high and low post, he can defend every position, and he hustles his ass off.

He is a good passer, but can he shoot?

A young, 6-9, PJ Tucker, who is a physical freak, shot blocker, can defend every position, and is a good passer. I will take that every day. Imagine how effective Tucker would have been had he been 6-9 instead of 6-6 and if he was a excellent and willing passer.

He would be kind of a cross between PJ Tucker and Boris Diaw. Perfect glue guy.

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pickle wrote:The Lakers can deal with Ball's shooting hitch and with LaVar please.

But that's less preferable than the Lakers losing that pick all together.

I would be very sad if the Lakers take Ball. For one thing, I don't think he's a good fit with their guys, and I don't think he will flourish with that team. For another, I think the daddy drama will inflate in LA. If Ball goes to a small market team, that story line will die out quickly.

I can't tell where your loyalty lies with this statement man. I'm gonna assume it's with Ball.

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Not very interested in Brooks with the 33rd pick... Not enough length to be useful as a rotational piece in the NBA in my opinion. Good heart, but ... Ed O'Bannon?

pickle wrote:

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Not very interested in Brooks with the 33rd pick... Not enough length to be useful as a rotational piece in the NBA in my opinion. Good heart, but ... Ed O'Bannon?

I have reservations about him as well, but in the second round? That's about as low risk of a gamble that can be made.

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

In2ition wrote: The way he played tonight, he looked like Ben Wallace out there.

He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Why do you think that?

He's a skilled passer out of the high and low post, he can defend every position, and he hustles his ass off.

He is a good passer, but can he shoot?

There's not much evidence of him shooting, but I think that's mostly due to him playing his role. Everyone on else on the team can shoot from anywhere at a higher percentage, so they have Bell do all the other stuff.

His form is fine and I know he can hit an open shot when needed. He had a sweet turn around fade away off the lower left block on KU's biggest guy. He's not hitting that shot with great efficiency right now, but at least he has the technique and talent to do it. I really don't see why he won't be able to develop a reliable shot down the line.

FWIW, Fultz had a higher assist % this year than Ball.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

pickle wrote:

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Not very interested in Brooks with the 33rd pick... Not enough length to be useful as a rotational piece in the NBA in my opinion. Good heart, but ... Ed O'Bannon?

I have reservations about him as well, but in the second round? That's about as low risk of a gamble that can be made.

I don't know. How do you define risk...? I'd rather take Bell with that pick than Brooks, to be honest. At 6'7 with a 6'5 wingspan, he's basically a 2 to me. He might have some bulk to bang with bigger players but I don't see him being a plus defender. He had a few very impressive step back three pointers today, but his athleticism didn't really impress me, so I see a lot going against him in the NBA...

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Many thanks.

Yep, I came here to congratulate you too. Just finished watching the game. I think Bell is getting drafted after tonight's game. Very impressive.

pickle wrote:I don't know. How do you define risk...? I'd rather take Bell with that pick than Brooks, to be honest. At 6'7 with a 6'5 wingspan, he's basically a 2 to me. He might have some bulk to bang with bigger players but I don't see him being a plus defender. He had a few very impressive step back three pointers today, but his athleticism didn't really impress me, so I see a lot going against him in the NBA...

I think that would be a tough decision at 33, and it could depend on how teams envision either guy in their role and system. I'm not sure Brooks will be around for the 33rd pick anyway. I'm pretty confident he'll go in the late first round.

I'm not sure you've seen enough of him to say that you're not impressed with his athleticism. Sure, he's not a freak athlete, but he has very good footwork and can beat basically anyone in college basketball off the dribble. He also has plenty of bounce in his legs. The only real knock on him is his short arms, but I think he'll turn out just fine if that's all he needs to overcome.

Superbone wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

carey wrote:Congrats FF. Doing this all without Boucher has been impressive. Still a big fan of Dillon Brooks and would like him here at #33. Calling my shot now like I did last year with Tyler.

Many thanks.

Yep, I came here to congratulate you too. Just finished watching the game. I think Bell is getting drafted after tonight's game. Very impressive.

Thanks.

I think he's gonna declare now too. I'm obviously happy for him, but I would love to see him come back for his senior year with some Pac12 POTY potential.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:He's gonna get some Draymond Green comparisons over the next week.

Well, that didn't take long...

Jordan Bell is Oregon's Draymond Green