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Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:09 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Maybe a reason for that is because most of us here have seen Ayton play several times, and a 1-on-0 workout and softball interview isn't going get most of us worked up.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 pm
by Superbone
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:05 pm
I'm guessing if and when Doncic has his workout day with us, this post and others will have hundreds of comments. Just the vibe I'm getting. For Aytons workout and press conference today, we've had 10-15 total.
I'm pretty sure that day is not coming. He has already said that he isn't working out for any teams. He's still playing in Europe.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:05 pm
by AmareIsGod
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:05 pm
I'm guessing if and when Doncic has his workout day with us, this post and others will have hundreds of comments. Just the vibe I'm getting. For Aytons workout and press conference today, we've had 10-15 total.
I'm pretty sure that day is not coming. He has already said that he isn't working out for any teams. He's still playing in Europe.
This is true. I just feel like this board has the least amount of Ayton excitement of anywhere. /r/suns on Reddit, ArizonaSports, Twitter, etc., has a lot of Ayton hype. We go against the norm it seems. Nothing wrong with that though.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:36 pm
by Mori Chu
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm
I'm done. I can't watch another Doncic highlight reel. They just anger me now.
I feel exactly the same way. I just know we aren't going to get Doncic, and I'm already preemptively upset about it. I really hope Ayton ends up being the better player, I guess, because I know we aren't going to draft the guy I really want.

All I can do now is hold onto the slim hope that we concoct some kind of weird trade where we get the #3 or #4 pick and somehow also get Doncic to go along with Ayton. Now that would be exciting. But I doubt we can pull that off.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:46 pm
by The Bobster
AmareIsGod wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:05 pm
I'm guessing if and when Doncic has his workout day with us, this post and others will have hundreds of comments. Just the vibe I'm getting. For Aytons workout and press conference today, we've had 10-15 total.
Most of us are a lot more familiar with Ayton at this point.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:47 pm
by AmareIsGod
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:36 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm
I'm done. I can't watch another Doncic highlight reel. They just anger me now.
I feel exactly the same way. I just know we aren't going to get Doncic, and I'm already preemptively upset about it. I really hope Ayton ends up being the better player, I guess, because I know we aren't going to draft the guy I really want.

All I can do now is hold onto the slim hope that we concoct some kind of weird trade where we get the #3 or #4 pick and somehow also get Doncic to go along with Ayton. Now that would be exciting. But I doubt we can pull that off.
Yeah, I agree. He really looked great vs. the Herbalife Gran Canaria squad. Dominant competition.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/S ... naria/1312

Though buried in my sarcasm, their roster does have 11 players that entered the NBA draft and went Undrafted. Plus 3 players that did get drafted, one being a former first round NBA pick (Anzejs Pasecniks, 2017, Round 1, Pick 25).

I can hate on the talent of his competition all I want but I'm sure most of the NCAA squads Ayton went against lacked NBA Draft picks for the majority of their roster as well. I just don't know how Gal Mekel, 2009 NBA Draft, Undrafted (so he's likely 30 years old on the Herbalife Gran Carnia squad) compares against NCAA PG talent.

I feel Doncic is a safer pick but has less potential to be great / lower ceiling.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:07 pm
by Shabazz
I think picking Ayton is set in stone at this point. I'm Team Doncic, but I'm not upset about Ayton. Just because I think Doncic is a better prospect doesn't mean it's the case. What the hell do I know?

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:09 pm
by Shabazz
One thing I like about Ayton is how well he fits with Bender. I know that's not a huge consideration here, but they could form a potent inside-outside frontcourt. Ayton also covers a lot of Bender's weaknesses (namely rebounding).

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:41 pm
by The Bobster
It will be interesting to see all these young players grow together. I just hope they add a quality veteran or two give the team some stability.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:57 pm
by Cap
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:07 pm
I think picking Ayton is set in stone at this point. I'm Team Doncic, but I'm not upset about Ayton. Just because I think Doncic is a better prospect doesn't mean it's the case. What the hell do I know?
I’m on Team Undecided. Is that a team?

I’ve gone from slightly leaning Doncic to slightly leaning Ayton, but it’s still pretty close to a coin flip.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:17 pm
by Furlanfufi
I feel the same as Marty. Really, really wanted Doncic.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:17 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:07 pm
I think picking Ayton is set in stone at this point. I'm Team Doncic, but I'm not upset about Ayton. Just because I think Doncic is a better prospect doesn't mean it's the case. What the hell do I know?
I just hope Doncic doesn't become the next Larry Bird if (when) we don't get him. I'd just pray not to have an Oden/Durant situation. Actually, I wouldn't mind if Doncic becomes the next Larry Bird as long as Ayton becomes the next Hakeem Olajuwon.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:18 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:41 pm
It will be interesting to see all these young players grow together. I just hope they add a quality veteran or two give the team some stability.
What? Chandler and Dudley don't do it for you?

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:19 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:57 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:07 pm
I think picking Ayton is set in stone at this point. I'm Team Doncic, but I'm not upset about Ayton. Just because I think Doncic is a better prospect doesn't mean it's the case. What the hell do I know?
I’m on Team Undecided. Is that a team?

I’ve gone from slightly leaning Doncic to slightly leaning Ayton, but it’s still pretty close to a coin flip.
That's the best team to be on. I'm pretty sure you'll be happy on June 21st.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:29 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:17 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:07 pm
I think picking Ayton is set in stone at this point. I'm Team Doncic, but I'm not upset about Ayton. Just because I think Doncic is a better prospect doesn't mean it's the case. What the hell do I know?
I just hope Doncic doesn't become the next Larry Bird if (when) we don't get him. I'd just pray not to have an Oden/Durant situation. Actually, I wouldn't mind if Doncic becomes the next Larry Bird as long as Ayton becomes the next Hakeem Olajuwon.
That would be the best outcome. That or Ayton becomes the next olajuwon and doncic is Toni kukoc.

I really really really hope we don't blow this pick. From all the hype today though I'm just slowly accepting the fact it's going to be Ayton and learning to like the pick.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:40 pm
by The Bobster
I certainly wouldn't compare Doncic to Bird - Bird was one of the best shooters ever, a good rebounder and a great passer at 6'9" 3/4 (and one of the fiercest competitors of his time). Doncic is a lot more of a 2/3, not in his class as a rebounder. Time will tell on his competitive fire and his leadership ability.

He has a very good chance to be better than Kukoc, but a fairly similar player in style.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:06 pm
by INFORMER
JustWinBaby wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:48 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm
I'm done. I can't watch another Doncic highlight reel. They just anger me now.
What does that mean, please get to the point. Is he that good that you are going to be mad when we do not draft him #1?
Basically. I like Ayton, and he is VERY talented, but I am to the point that it upsets me that Doncic won't be a Sun. I think he is exactly what we need, and I think we can build a better team with him than with Ayton.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:07 pm
by Furlanfufi
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:06 pm
JustWinBaby wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:48 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:42 pm
I'm done. I can't watch another Doncic highlight reel. They just anger me now.
What does that mean, please get to the point. Is he that good that you are going to be mad when we do not draft him #1?
Basically. I like Ayton, and he is VERY talented, but I am to the point that it upsets me that Doncic won't be a Sun. I think he is exactly what we need, and I think we can build a better team with him than with Ayton.
We're gonna save Divac's job.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:13 pm
by n4th4n
I am pretty disappointed that it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we are drafting Ayton. And I don't think it is smart to show our hands so clearly.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:21 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
n4th4n wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:13 pm
I am pretty disappointed that it seems to be a foregone conclusion that we are drafting Ayton. And I don't think it is smart to show our hands so clearly.
It's hard to be savvy when you're barely competent.