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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 6:03 pm
by In2ition
I wish he would ask God for hands.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 7:09 pm
by TOO
I wish he'd ask for some testosterone.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 9:10 pm
by Nodack
Lol

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:24 pm
by JeremyG

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:31 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Maybe that source @DPC_2017 is credible, but I can't help but laugh at that stuff.

"My cousin's nephew's barber kicked it with him at a basketball camp in high school. He said the Bad Boy Pistons were lit. He coming to the D. No cap."

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:50 pm
by Split T
Detroit is pretty much the worst case scenario for me. I don’t like what they have and not sure how they’d make an offer I’d accept. The centerpiece would have to be whatever they get at #5 for the value to make sense. Grant for the contract and I’d want a flyer on Killian Hayes too. I’d probably want to move Grant elsewhere…

Though the timeline pod did mention a 3-teamer I’d get behind. Ayton to Detroit, Grant to Utah, Mitchell to Phoenix. Obviously both teams would have to give Utah more. What if they get 5 and Hayes, plus we throw in a future 1st and Craig.

Not sure where Utah is getting offense from, but a Conley/Hayes/Bojan/Grant/Gobert team should be good defensively. They’d just the 5 pick on say Jaden Ivey.

Suns would be crazy small, but you’d have your post CP3 pg plan in place.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:58 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I'd be really excited to get Jaden Ivey. I think he's my favorite prospect that'd be theoretically available in an Ayton trade.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:45 am
by Mori Chu
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:31 pm
Maybe that source @DPC_2017 is credible, but I can't help but laugh at that stuff.

"My cousin's nephew's barber kicked it with him at a basketball camp in high school. He said the Bad Boy Pistons were lit. He coming to the D. No cap."
Yeah, I put precisely zero stock in tweets like that one.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:58 am
by ShelC

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:17 am
by Vladimir_Taltos
Anything without a top 3 pick and some top talent is underselling...

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:15 pm
by JeremyG

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:13 pm
by Indy
Good rundown by David--Read the entire thread.


Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:41 pm
by Flagrant Fowl

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:05 pm
by TOO
And this is why you can't max him and he can't be the 2nd fiddle, its just not in his wheel house.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:00 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
TOO wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:05 pm
And this is why you can't max him and he can't be the 2nd fiddle, its just not in his wheel house.
Cue for Jeremy G …

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:37 pm
by JeremyG
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 659878001/
The Athletic's John Hollinger breaks down Ayton's situation in rating him the top free agent big man this summer.

[...]

"As to the question of how much he's worth. Even in my valuation system that devalues centers pretty strongly, the numbers suggest that Ayton is worth the bite of the apple."

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:59 am
by Mori Chu
I really hate most of these Ayton trade proposals. We're going to lose him for garbage from trash teams like the Spurs or Pistons, who have nothing I want. I am trying not to be depressed about it, but I just haven't seen any trade for Ayton that I think leaves us as a real contender. And I think we're going to regret letting him go.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:36 am
by Split T
I think we might regret the return, I don’t think we’ll regret letting him go

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:52 am
by specialsauce
If we don’t like the return we should keep him. Absolutely no reason to not retain him if it’s not going to improve our team in a way to help us contend for a championship.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:01 am
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:52 am
If we don’t like the return we should keep him. Absolutely no reason to not retain him if it’s not going to improve our team in a way to help us contend for a championship.
What if the relationship has been damaged and he’s not interested in playing his role anymore? I just don’t think it’s gonna be as easy as some of you think to just bring him back. I don’t think we want him and I don’t think he wants to be here.

I hope we can get something valuable in return, but none of us really know what offers will be out there. If he’s willing to come back and play within the system, I'd agree with you, but I have my doubts on his willingness to do that.