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Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:51 pm

My guess would be one of the protected picks the Knicks got from OKC in their Ousmane Dieng selection.

Edit: Guessed wrong. Burks is still plenty serviceable, so I suppose there's still player value in the deal. Not to mention Bobby Sarver's favorite player, Cash Considerations.

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:56 pm

Is it fair to think JJ is not fucking around with mild trades and additions?

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:01 pm

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:56 pm

Is it fair to think JJ is not fucking around with mild trades and additions?

Jae Crowder is really the only guy I think both has serious trade value and the Suns would be open to moving.

(Obviously besides Ayton on a 5-year max deal)

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:05 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:01 pm

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:56 pm

Is it fair to think JJ is not fucking around with mild trades and additions?

Jae Crowder is really the only guy I think both has serious trade value and the Suns would be open to moving.

(Obviously besides Ayton on a 5-year max deal)

Wait, I thought Jeremy shared some info that you can't sign Ayton to a 5 year max and trade him in a S&T?

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:00 pm

Here's my batshit idea I'd throw at Mark Cuban if I worked in the Mavs front office (and I really just wanted to help the Suns get KD).

1. Sign and trade Brunson to the Knicks with the goal of getting back the 1st round pick they sent to New York in the Porzingis trade.

2. Use the 2023 pick with Dwight Powell and Spencer Dinwiddie to get Kyrie Irving from the Nets.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:11 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:00 pm

Here's my batshit idea I'd throw at Mark Cuban if I worked in the Mavs front office (and I really just wanted to help the Suns get KD).

1. Sign and trade Brunson to the Knicks with the goal of getting back the 1st round pick they sent to New York in the Porzingis trade.

2. Use the 2023 pick with Dwight Powell and Spencer Dinwiddie to get Kyrie Irving from the Nets.

He’s unrestricted though, right? What would be the incentive for NY to give up anything? They can just sign him

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:14 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:11 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:00 pm

Here's my batshit idea I'd throw at Mark Cuban if I worked in the Mavs front office (and I really just wanted to help the Suns get KD).

1. Sign and trade Brunson to the Knicks with the goal of getting back the 1st round pick they sent to New York in the Porzingis trade.

2. Use the 2023 pick with Dwight Powell and Spencer Dinwiddie to get Kyrie Irving from the Nets.

He’s unrestricted though, right? What would be the incentive for NY to give up anything? They can just sign him

Shit. You're right. I can't keep this stuff straight anymore.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:12 pm

I don't think Ayton wanted to play in the same division as Giannis anyway.

(Cheap shot, but I don't care. )

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:15 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

I don't think it'd be that hard to tank with Ayton as the best player.

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:22 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

What about OKC? Not that I think they would…At this point I think the threat of a max offer sheet is pretty much off the table. It’s sign and trade or we bring him back at an under max deal.

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:21 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:15 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

I don't think it'd be that hard to tank with Ayton as the best player.

No, but they seem to be wanting to only take back picks or expiring contracts for Murray. So it doesn't look like adding a 4 year max-ish player to their team is what they want.

And do you sign a guy to that when a generational center is likely the #1 pick next year?

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:23 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:22 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

What about OKC? Not that I think they would…At this point I think the threat of a max offer sheet is pretty much off the table. It’s sign and trade or we bring him back at an under max deal.

From the tweet after the draft, they were not in the top 5 teams with cap space.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:24 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:21 pm

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:15 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:13 pm

Only the Spurs can offer him a max, now. (The Knicks could, but they have signaled Brunson). Orlando is a few million away, and they could still clear it before Friday.

If the Spurs are serious at tanking for next year to get Wembanyama, then maybe they are out on him, too.

I don't think it'd be that hard to tank with Ayton as the best player.

No, but they seem to be wanting to only take back picks or expiring contracts for Murray. So it doesn't look like adding a 4 year max-ish player to their team is what they want.

And do you sign a guy to that when a generational center is likely the #1 pick next year?

The spurs stuff is weird and makes me think Pop has decided to retire and SA is switching gears. They’ve been chasing mediocrity since Kawhi left and I’m not sure why they’d pivot now if Pop was staying on.