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I just couldn't bring myself to root for Poole. His attitude sucks and he isn't consistent enough for the money he is being paid.

If we made that trade I reckon we'd all be back here at this point next year venting our frustrations and pitching ideas for how we could get rid of him.

Why would the Warriors do that trade? CP3 can't play with Curry and Klay at the same time.

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:16 pm

If we made that trade I reckon we'd all be back here at this point next year venting our frustrations and pitching ideas for how we could get rid of him.

So it'd be like every other day on phx-suns.net.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:58 am

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:16 pm

If we made that trade I reckon we'd all be back here at this point next year venting our frustrations and pitching ideas for how we could get rid of him.

So it'd be like every other day on phx-suns.net.

My favorite place on the internet.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:41 am

Why would the Warriors do that trade? CP3 can't play with Curry and Klay at the same time.

Exactly. There's no way CP3 fits into what they do. He's not mobile enough anymore.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:58 am

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:16 pm

If we made that trade I reckon we'd all be back here at this point next year venting our frustrations and pitching ideas for how we could get rid of him.

So it'd be like every other day on phx-suns.net.

I think it would be about getting off the Poole contract more than anything. They’d try and bring CP3 off the bench. But I also don’t super get it from a basketball standpoint.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:57 am

My other thought with Portland…there was that ridiculous talk about getting the 3rd pick for Ayton, but they also have another 1st rounder. What if we could do something built around the 23rd pick?

Nurkic/Simons/23 for Ayton/Shamet?

The 23 would be to take on the Nurkic deal.

Portland is more likely to use Simons to land Siakim, and Simons could easily be considered a better player than Ayton. So I don't see Portland sacrificing Simons and a 1st rounder, just to upgrade from Nurkic to Ayton.

TOO wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:23 pm

So, not the Suns? Good luck James.

Where was this plan 2 years ago when the window was wide open? What a moron.

The putting pressure on the rim part is what got me. The Suns are probably one of the worst playoff teams at doing that.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:41 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:57 am

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:04 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:53 am

That’s fair…but what’s the alternative? Ayton is also a high priced player that doesn’t seem to fit. There may be better options on what to do with Ayton, but we’ll have to see.

I like where the Suns are going either Ayton, trade him if there's a deal that is actually good, or rehab him if there isn't. My nightmare is the Suns trading him for a bunch of scrubs or mediocre role players on long term deals. I don't think this will happen given Vogel.

Think Amare for Warrick and Turkyglue. That worked out well.

Exactly. But some folks here seem to be advocating for these kinds of trades.

Warrick and Hedo weren't good players. Period. There was no reason to want those players at any cost. And that isn't hindsight, especially coming from me.

I haven't seen a single trade proposed on this site that even comes close to those awful moves.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:13 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:27 pm

I said 90% washed, which I stand by. He could hardly stay on the court after the his first season with the Knicks. Good for him for sticking around as long as he did, but the Suns would've been down bad if they had given him the same 5-year, $100M deal that he got from the Knicks.

Are you guys really saying the Suns shouldn't have traded him?

Yeah, it was coming off a WCF appearance. I would have liked to see them run it back one more time at least. And yes, 'Bazz. We are doing this again...and again...for ETERNITY!!!

Eh. In those years, it was the Lakers and everyone else. The teams that made it to the Conference Finals weren't that good. Melo's Denver team that got beat the Lakers is a prime example.

Plus, Amare wasn't that good in that Lakers series. That was part of why we lost. His performance didn't inspire me to want five more years of that with his injury concerns.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:24 pm

Gambo says the Mavericks will not give up the #10 pick for Ayton.

That's kind of the Mavericks to tell him that.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:30 pm

Same for Chris Paul. If chatter is to be believed, a lot of teams want him. If you want to trade one player for a bunch of role players, it should be CP3. Not Ayton. Need some kind of star power or a high draft pick for him.

Ayton isn't a star, so I don't understand this belief that he is going to net you a star.

And teams want Chris Paul as a free agent, not a $30 million trade acquisition.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:49 pm

Eddie Gonzo throwing out CP3 for Kuminga and Poole lol. Who says no

I don't think GS would include Kuminga in that deal.

CP3 for Poole has some merit for both teams, and like you said saucy, it isn't the worst idea for the Suns. We just would have so many needs that Poole doesn't address; I don't think he is a great fit next to Book/KD, and I don't know if he is a player that will mesh well with Vogel. Plus, with Poole, you're essentially adding another Ayton-like situation. And speaking of Ayton, if you're keeping him, it makes zero sense to add another ball dominant player that needs a ton of touches to be effective.

Just say no to Jordan Poole(‘s albatross contract).

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:04 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:13 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:27 pm

I said 90% washed, which I stand by. He could hardly stay on the court after the his first season with the Knicks. Good for him for sticking around as long as he did, but the Suns would've been down bad if they had given him the same 5-year, $100M deal that he got from the Knicks.

Are you guys really saying the Suns shouldn't have traded him?

Yeah, it was coming off a WCF appearance. I would have liked to see them run it back one more time at least. And yes, 'Bazz. We are doing this again...and again...for ETERNITY!!!

Eh. In those years, it was the Lakers and everyone else. The teams that made it to the Conference Finals weren't that good. Melo's Denver team that got beat the Lakers is a prime example.

Plus, Amare wasn't that good in that Lakers series. That was part of why we lost. His performance didn't inspire me to want five more years of that with his injury concerns.

The Suns were one Artest put back away from maybe taking out the Lakers and going to the Finals where they may have won their first title.

Gentry screwed up that lineup on the final play. Lopez should've been in the game.

I think how we talk about that game is misleading. Three points that I think are important:

1. If Artest doesn’t get that rebound and put back, we still have to win in OT
2. Jason Richardson banked in a 3 just to tie it. Might have been more of a lucky shot than Artest.
3. We still went home and lost game 6 on our own floor.

Sure, it’s possible that Artest putback flipped the series, but I think LA was better and we almost got lucky.

Not great

Oof. There goes one of our big hopes