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I see what you did there, Mori. (Although our bold is barely distinguishable.)

... and no truth to the rumor that, if KJ does get in the HOF in the future his theme music will be "Don't Stand, Don't Stand So, Don't Stand So Close to Me" by the Police, and that he will be autographing free copies of Nabokov's "Lolita" ...

Those references are as old as you are, L.L.

Lolita was published in 1955.

You couldn't have worked in a "happy ending" in there, Mori?

Superbone wrote:Lolita was published in 1955.

I've read it. There is a line in that Police song that refers to the book, too. (Which may or may not have been why I read it.) I'm thinking LL is at least 60.

Guys, this is totally disrespectful! KJ is a Phoenix hero and deserves to be showered with girls. Er, Praise. Showered with Praise!

https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/717072872519426048 Bogdan hits game winners for breakfast.

Did he call glass?

Cap wrote:Did he call glass?

No, he called game!

LazarusLong wrote:

ShelC wrote:I wanna see if Amar'e gets into the Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.

He'll surely be on a leaflet somewhere!

#lightreading.

LOL at this thread. Good for a chuckle. You guys are the best.

JCSunsfan wrote:

LazarusLong wrote:Chandler actually played quite well yesterday.

He's benefitting from Len playing 4, leaving TC free to operate in the low post. While Chandler's had a couple of good offensive games, the "twin towers" experiment isn't exactly helping Len.

Re: my comments ... they are more directed at the use of the training staff as a resource by the team, rather than the staff itself. Bad teams become that way because of bad habits...

My take is that Len struggles more when Tyson is NOT on the floor--that Len actually benefits when he plays with Tyson. Len is shooting the 15-18 footer pretty well. His form is good and I would want him shooting that open shot as much as anyone on the team. He can seem to hit close in contested shots. He frequently misses lay ups and little hooks. He doesn't jump much anymore. He plays that kind of offense when Tyson is sitting.

Len needs to take his time to shoot. He still rushes it too frequently but yeah, form gives us hope for real development. For other aspects of his offense (awareness in particular), he needs to watch a ton of Brook Lopez.

One thing I know is that his limitations on offense don't make me want to move on from him. Defense and rebounding are solid enough to wait and even if he never truly improves scoring, today teams are not afraid of using one big strictly for D+R purposes while everybody else shoots and dribbles. We have much bigger problem on our roster to figure out.

Ring_Wanted wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

LazarusLong wrote:Chandler actually played quite well yesterday.

He's benefitting from Len playing 4, leaving TC free to operate in the low post. While Chandler's had a couple of good offensive games, the "twin towers" experiment isn't exactly helping Len.

Re: my comments ... they are more directed at the use of the training staff as a resource by the team, rather than the staff itself. Bad teams become that way because of bad habits...

My take is that Len struggles more when Tyson is NOT on the floor--that Len actually benefits when he plays with Tyson. Len is shooting the 15-18 footer pretty well. His form is good and I would want him shooting that open shot as much as anyone on the team. He can seem to hit close in contested shots. He frequently misses lay ups and little hooks. He doesn't jump much anymore. He plays that kind of offense when Tyson is sitting.

Len needs to take his time to shoot. He still rushes it too frequently but yeah, form gives us hope for real development. For other aspects of his offense (awareness in particular), he needs to watch a ton of Brook Lopez.

One thing I know is that his limitations on offense don't make me want to move on from him. Defense and rebounding are solid enough to wait and even if he never truly improves scoring, today teams are not afraid of using one big strictly for D+R purposes while everybody else shoots and dribbles. We have much bigger problem on our roster to figure out.

Several years ago, Mark West worked with Kieff about scoring inside while getting significant contact. Len needs that. You are right. He rushes the close shots. He also needs to jump--even just a little. Most guy who played high school ball had that one really big guy on your team, that could just dominate if he could ever just figure out that he was actually bigger than everyone else. That's Len right now. That was also Robin Lopez at the same stage.

Rookie/Vet with Booker/Chandler, episode 3:

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/tyson- ... episode-3/

JCSunsfan wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

LazarusLong wrote:Chandler actually played quite well yesterday.

He's benefitting from Len playing 4, leaving TC free to operate in the low post. While Chandler's had a couple of good offensive games, the "twin towers" experiment isn't exactly helping Len.

Re: my comments ... they are more directed at the use of the training staff as a resource by the team, rather than the staff itself. Bad teams become that way because of bad habits...

My take is that Len struggles more when Tyson is NOT on the floor--that Len actually benefits when he plays with Tyson. Len is shooting the 15-18 footer pretty well. His form is good and I would want him shooting that open shot as much as anyone on the team. He can seem to hit close in contested shots. He frequently misses lay ups and little hooks. He doesn't jump much anymore. He plays that kind of offense when Tyson is sitting.

Len needs to take his time to shoot. He still rushes it too frequently but yeah, form gives us hope for real development. For other aspects of his offense (awareness in particular), he needs to watch a ton of Brook Lopez.

One thing I know is that his limitations on offense don't make me want to move on from him. Defense and rebounding are solid enough to wait and even if he never truly improves scoring, today teams are not afraid of using one big strictly for D+R purposes while everybody else shoots and dribbles. We have much bigger problem on our roster to figure out.

Several years ago, Mark West worked with Kieff about scoring inside while getting significant contact. Len needs that. You are right. He rushes the close shots. He also needs to jump--even just a little. Most guy who played high school ball had that one really big guy on your team, that could just dominate if he could ever just figure out that he was actually bigger than everyone else. That's Len right now. That was also Robin Lopez at the same stage.

Pretty much. RoLo's FG at least was efficient, althoug it looks so ugly. On the other hand, Len does grab rebounds. Will never want a center who can't get his hands on stuff. I get that RoLo blocks out people but in the end you need your tower to be the police of the paint. I see that potential in Len. Like I said, even if he never amounts to anything on offense, as long as he delivers on D+R I am ok.

I foresee Len having a better career than Rolo. Time will tell.

I think Len's minutes will need to be kept closer to 25-28 for him to be at his most effective. He's a much better player when he plays with energy and aggression. He can resemble Bogut when he gets tired, but he doesn't have the mass Bogut does: I just don't see him being effective as plodder.