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Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:15 am
by Superbone
carey wrote:Everytime Albert says "with bad intentions," I want to sock him in his jaw.
I noticed him say it on a rather soft dunk from the opposition. If it hadn't lost it's impact already, he bloodied it with that usage.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:21 am
by Nodack
Eddie did like his "Don't call me Duke Ellington" comment.

Chriss with another T. He had his best game otherwise.

Dragic still pissed at the Suns. He was their offense in the first half.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:44 am
by carey
Split T wrote:Missed the game, reading on here would make it seem like booker was terrible tonight. Is the box score misleading? 27 points on 9/19 shooting looks pretty good. Chriss also looks like he had a good game.

Looking at the standings, we're actually 8-4 against the East this year, but 3-21 against the West. We might be a playoff team out East
He just took a lot of contested shots that felt like "I'm going to get my shots" instead of moving the ball for a better shot. He isn't passing as much as he used to either. On one play when on a fast break with TJ Warren running to his left TJ just stopped bec he knew a pass wasn't coming. Booker took and made the contested layup (to his credit) but there was an easier play to be made. That's the Suns offense as a whole though. We rarely ever get to the easier play.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:03 am
by O_Gardino
Split T wrote:Missed the game, reading on here would make it seem like booker was terrible tonight. Is the box score misleading? 27 points on 9/19 shooting looks pretty good. Chriss also looks like he had a good game.

Looking at the standings, we're actually 8-4 against the East this year, but 3-21 against the West. We might be a playoff team out East
WE ARE APTIE

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:06 am
by O_Gardino
carey wrote:
Split T wrote:Missed the game, reading on here would make it seem like booker was terrible tonight. Is the box score misleading? 27 points on 9/19 shooting looks pretty good. Chriss also looks like he had a good game.

Looking at the standings, we're actually 8-4 against the East this year, but 3-21 against the West. We might be a playoff team out East
He just took a lot of contested shots that felt like "I'm going to get my shots" instead of moving the ball for a better shot. He isn't passing as much as he used to either. On one play when on a fast break with TJ Warren running to his left TJ just stopped bec he knew a pass wasn't coming. Booker took and made the contested layup (to his credit) but there was an easier play to be made. That's the Suns offense as a whole though. We rarely ever get to the easier play.
I agree with this take. It seems like some of the guys have decided there's not point in making the unselfish play.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:24 am
by carey
For all the talk about "family" they sure don't look like one out there.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:41 am
by Danimal
carey wrote:For all the talk about "family" they sure don't look like one out there.
Perhaps Hung over kardashians. So Kardashians

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:07 am
by Indy
carey wrote:Everytime Albert says "with bad intentions," I want to sock him in his jaw.
I usually don't condone violence, but this is warranted.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:14 am
by azsportsfan
O_Gardino wrote:
carey wrote:
Split T wrote:Missed the game, reading on here would make it seem like booker was terrible tonight. Is the box score misleading? 27 points on 9/19 shooting looks pretty good. Chriss also looks like he had a good game.

Looking at the standings, we're actually 8-4 against the East this year, but 3-21 against the West. We might be a playoff team out East
He just took a lot of contested shots that felt like "I'm going to get my shots" instead of moving the ball for a better shot. He isn't passing as much as he used to either. On one play when on a fast break with TJ Warren running to his left TJ just stopped bec he knew a pass wasn't coming. Booker took and made the contested layup (to his credit) but there was an easier play to be made. That's the Suns offense as a whole though. We rarely ever get to the easier play.
I agree with this take. It seems like some of the guys have decided there's not point in making the unselfish play.
Well, the point guard did hoist up 27 shots the night before. Sounds like the game plan to me. ;)

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:50 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote:
carey wrote:Everytime Albert says "with bad intentions," I want to sock him in his jaw.
I usually don't condone violence, but this is warranted.
Ooh! Indy said that WITH BAD INTENTIONS!

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:14 pm
by Wally_West
Leander refers to Bledsoe and Booker as the "Killer Bees"...

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:20 pm
by carey
Man, LeBatard killed both the Suns and the Heat for the product they put on the floor last night. Said we are the 2 worst teams in the NBA and the Heat still lost by 9.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:30 pm
by TOO
I dont think we are one of the worst 2, definitely one of the worst to watch for sure though.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:01 pm
by Mori Chu
carey wrote:For all the talk about "family" they sure don't look like one out there.
The "family" and "love" stuff is almost the only tangible thing Watson has pitched about his coaching philosophy. And he can't even do that properly. With a "players' coach" like Watson, at the very least you should want to see guys out there playing hard, good effort, good mood, even if the results are not great. We do not have that.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:11 am
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
carey wrote:For all the talk about "family" they sure don't look like one out there.
The "family" and "love" stuff is almost the only tangible thing Watson has pitched about his coaching philosophy. And he can't even do that properly. With a "players' coach" like Watson, at the very least you should want to see guys out there playing hard, good effort, good mood, even if the results are not great. We do not have that.
That can't work for very long when you have a couple players out there playing the wrong way. Especially when you are much more likely to lose a game than win it, and in nearly every game go down by 15-20 at some point in the game. These guys (especially the young ones) are used to winning much more often than losing. It is a shock to suck, and really hard to deal with when not everyone on your team is bought in.

I think if we can trade Knight and PJ, we would be in a much better place with team chemistry and effort. And that is not because PJ doesn't try hard (and even Knight). It is because we will have many more teachable moments where guys can learn if they are not here.

Re: Game Day: Heat (10-25) @ Suns (10-25), Tues 1/3/17

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:35 am
by O_Gardino
Indy wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
carey wrote:For all the talk about "family" they sure don't look like one out there.
The "family" and "love" stuff is almost the only tangible thing Watson has pitched about his coaching philosophy. And he can't even do that properly. With a "players' coach" like Watson, at the very least you should want to see guys out there playing hard, good effort, good mood, even if the results are not great. We do not have that.
That can't work for very long when you have a couple players out there playing the wrong way. Especially when you are much more likely to lose a game than win it, and in nearly every game go down by 15-20 at some point in the game. These guys (especially the young ones) are used to winning much more often than losing. It is a shock to suck, and really hard to deal with when not everyone on your team is bought in.

I think if we can trade Knight and PJ, we would be in a much better place with team chemistry and effort. And that is not because PJ doesn't try hard (and even Knight). It is because we will have many more teachable moments where guys can learn if they are not here.
Right. You can have a players coach with a veteran team that is winning. With a young team, you need a good coach. Or, if you can't get a good one, get a "teaching" coach.