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Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:36 pm
by Superbone
Courtesy of carey:
https://twitter.com/Suns/status/878057651564756992

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:37 pm
by 1tinsoldier
based on his position and skill set
and that we can retain Bledsoe's true value
i would have taken Jackson at 2!

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:37 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:You can tell he's a bit of an ass. That could go either way. Look at westbrook, he's an ass.
Or Kobe.
Article on brightside had Jackson comparing himself to draymond as a competitor.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:39 pm
by O_Gardino
Split T wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:You can tell he's a bit of an ass. That could go either way. Look at westbrook, he's an ass.
Or Kobe.
Article on brightside had Jackson comparing himself to draymond as a competitor.
Raja had a similar mindset tempered by a lack of early success. We know guys like that can be great in the right circumstances.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:40 pm
by Superbone
"I think I fit in perfect. I can't wait to get there." - @j_josh11

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Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:50 pm
by O_Gardino
From the draft recap at ESPN.com
Jackson is the best two-way player in the draft, with a combination of elite size, length and athleticism for a wing. He also has an ultra-competitive motor that makes him a handful on both ends of the court.

http://www.espn.com/nba/draft/rounds
They have a little blurb on each guy.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:56 pm
by O_Gardino
Just trying to understand the impact of having Jackson on the floor. With Jackson and Booker both good creators, we may not need a star PG as much as we have in the past. Maybe Bled plays off the ball a little bit more this season.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:17 pm
by JustWinBaby
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wally_West wrote:We got a player some people thought was best player in the draft, we did good.
Nobody outside of a straightjacket thought that. But Jackson is still a good prospect.
I heard several commentators suggest that Jackson may end up being the best pick in the draft

Based drat.net rating system this is how the first four were rated

100 - Jackson
100 - Fultz
98 - Ball
95 - Tatum

That was with them ranking Jackson a 6 in shooting. In every other area he excelled.

Hopefully he puts in the work to improve his shooting. Marion had lousy mechanics as well. I see him as potentially a better version of the Matrix. If that is how it works out I expect every Suns fan will be pretty happy.

I also liked Tatum, like many others, but we just might have stuck gold, let's hope.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm
by Split T
Jackson is a good athlete, don't think he's as freaky athletic as Marion. Not many people are though.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:51 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote:Jackson is a good athlete, don't think he's as freaky athletic as Marion. Not many people are though.
Agreed. Isaac was the other guy I was considering but don't think I would have passed on Jackson either.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:53 pm
by Split T
I really like Isaac and would have loved picking him, love the Jackson pick too though

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:35 pm
by Split T
McD said he thought Jackson was the best player in the draft. Do we believe that? Or does he have to say that?

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:36 pm
by Shabazz
Everyone is always much higher on the Suns board than where they took them. I think he's said that with every pick he's ever made.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pm
by Split T
It's pretty typical of GM's in all sports

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:41 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:McD said he thought Jackson was the best player in the draft. Do we believe that? Or does he have to say that?
Jackson was pre-season number 1 in a lot of places. So i'm sure McD wasnt the only one to think this.


I actually never thought we had a shot at him which is why i zeroed in on Tatum and Fox.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:47 pm
by n4th4n
The Ringer had an article today on Jayson Tatum. What stood out to me in the article was a little blurb from Jonathan Tjarks that included Josh Jackson. It touches on one of the reasons I am so excited we were able to draft him.
I remember watching Jahlil Okafor go up against Myles Turner and Karl-Anthony Towns three years ago and thinking he just couldn’t hang with them athletically. Tatum was matched up against Josh Jackson a lot in 2016, and Tatum couldn’t get around him. All Tatum could do was force long 2s with a hand in his face. I was talking to an NBA executive about Jackson a couple of months ago, and he told me the best players in his class are all scared of him. As soon as I heard that, I flashed back to those scrimmages.
That is EXACTLY the type of player we needed on this team. A tenacious defender who straight up scares top-tier offense players. With him and Chriss on the team, we are not going to be lacking in toughness or chippiness, that is for sure. I'm hoping they can both rub off on Bender a little in that way.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:49 pm
by n4th4n
I also want to point out the fact that Jackson is an unselfish player and a playmaker. He has vision, passes well, and has great instincts on the court. Those are all traits that we have been clamoring for, for a while. Well, bingo!

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:00 pm
by INFORMER
n4th4n wrote:With him and Chriss on the team, we are not going to be lacking in toughness or chippiness, that is for sure. I'm hoping they can both rub off on Bender a little in that way.
Chriss is more chippy than he is tough. Gets on my nerves.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:08 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote:
n4th4n wrote:With him and Chriss on the team, we are not going to be lacking in toughness or chippiness, that is for sure. I'm hoping they can both rub off on Bender a little in that way.
Chriss is more chippy than he is tough. Gets on my nerves.
He does have some fake tough guy in his game for sure. A little Kieff-ish.

Re: Suns draft Josh Jackson at #4

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:13 pm
by n4th4n
INFORMER wrote:
n4th4n wrote:With him and Chriss on the team, we are not going to be lacking in toughness or chippiness, that is for sure. I'm hoping they can both rub off on Bender a little in that way.
Chriss is more chippy than he is tough. Gets on my nerves.
I'd say that is true. But I would rather that than a guy who plays with no fire.