Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:To me, trading away players and/or emphasizing young players is more like "Iron Chef." Here, chef, make something delicious (a win) with only these few ingredients (players). The chef is still trying his/her darnedest to make a great meal, they just have some constraints on them. And often, on Iron Chef and other cooking shows, they still find ways to make something good and interesting despite the constraints before them.
But actively walking in and telling the players, "We want to lose," is quite different. That's telling the chef, "I actually want you to cook a bad meal today. Can you do that?" That means the chef actually doesn't want to try to make something great, regardless of the ingredients. That is worse.
It isn't just that Cuban said out loud something you are supposed to think quietly in your head. It's that he actually told the chef he doesn't want a good meal, that he wants them to try to cook something bad.
But the rules are set up in a way where it is better for your business to lose big than be mediocre. Punishing people for using the rules to their advantage is disingenuous and places blame on others instead of you taking responsibility for your system. Grow a pair, mix it up, and find a way to discourage coming in as a bottom 3-5 team. Reward teams that are middle of the pack instead of dead last, so teams are fighting to at least be average.
I'll say it again: it starts with ownership. Owners should be accountable to win 160 games in every 5 year span, or they have to sell the team. That solves the problem of tanking, and the problem of long term bad ownership.
But the league is run by the owners, not the commissioner. He works for them. So I don't think you will get a majority of white billionaires to tell each other they have to leave the club. Especially because being forced to sell depresses the market, and drives down valuations for the other teams.
I agree it's unlikely, but it's the best solution.
Out of curiosity, do you feel that if the owners of the league were not white billionaires the outcome would be different?
The league needs heroes, villains... and clowns. -- Aztec Sunsfan
What's the likely outcome of the sexual harassment mess in Dallas? Are we going to see penalties similar to what Minnesota got for conspiring with Joe Smith to circumvent the salary cap? (Suspension of the owner, a massive fine and loss of multiple first-round draft choices). The only other thing I can think of that's comparable is the Donald Sterling, but I doubt they would force Cuban to sell the team, mainly because Sterling was in a league of his own when it came to deplorable behavior. Cuban's seems to be more a case of extremely poor judgement and lack of control withing the organization. I would guess that it will include a suspension (since fines seem to have little impact on his behavior in the past) and loss of draft picks.
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The Bobster wrote:What's the likely outcome of the sexual harassment mess in Dallas? Are we going to see penalties similar to what Minnesota got for conspiring with Joe Smith to circumvent the salary cap? (Suspension of the owner, a massive fine and loss of multiple first-round draft choices). The only other thing I can think of that's comparable is the Donald Sterling, but I doubt they would force Cuban to sell the team, mainly because Sterling was in a league of his own when it came to deplorable behavior. Cuban's seems to be more a case of extremely poor judgement and lack of control withing the organization. I would guess that it will include a suspension (since fines seem to have little impact on his behavior in the past) and loss of draft picks.
This is the same league that just sold a franchise to a russian dude who is famous for sexual misconduct and shady business. The league doesn't want to do anything, but if there is a big enough outcry they may have to.
The Sterling situation was different because he was a terrible owner who was also extremely old and showing signs of legit dementia. They wanted him out, his wife wanted him out, everyone wanted him out.
The league needs heroes, villains... and clowns. -- Aztec Sunsfan
Split T wrote:The question now is if he repairs it or removes it. Will determine if he plays again this year
Remove it? You mean clean up the tear?
They often just remove the damaged part of the meniscus. Recovery is much quicker (see Brandon Roy playing in the playoffs against us like 9 days after surgery) but could lead to more problems down the road. (See Brandon Roy out of the NBA before 30, although Roy had a lot of other knee issues that played a role)
Split T wrote:The question now is if he repairs it or removes it. Will determine if he plays again this year
Remove it? You mean clean up the tear?
They often just remove the damaged part of the meniscus. Recovery is much quicker (see Brandon Roy playing in the playoffs against us like 9 days after surgery) but could lead to more problems down the road. (See Brandon Roy out of the NBA before 30, although Roy had a lot of other knee issues that played a role)
I know all about it having had my meniscus cleaned up in early 2017. However, you said remove it as in remove the entire meniscus. I now understand what you meant.
Split T wrote:The question now is if he repairs it or removes it. Will determine if he plays again this year
Remove it? You mean clean up the tear?
They often just remove the damaged part of the meniscus. Recovery is much quicker (see Brandon Roy playing in the playoffs against us like 9 days after surgery) but could lead to more problems down the road. (See Brandon Roy out of the NBA before 30, although Roy had a lot of other knee issues that played a role)
I know all about it having had my meniscus cleaned up in early 2017. However, you said remove it as in remove the entire meniscus. I now understand what you meant.
Gotcha. Reports are saying he's out 4-6 weeks, so that sounds more like a removal of the damaged part than a repair.
Split T wrote:The question now is if he repairs it or removes it. Will determine if he plays again this year
Remove it? You mean clean up the tear?
They often just remove the damaged part of the meniscus. Recovery is much quicker (see Brandon Roy playing in the playoffs against us like 9 days after surgery) but could lead to more problems down the road. (See Brandon Roy out of the NBA before 30, although Roy had a lot of other knee issues that played a role)
I know all about it having had my meniscus cleaned up in early 2017. However, you said remove it as in remove the entire meniscus. I now understand what you meant.
Gotcha. Reports are saying he's out 4-6 weeks, so that sounds more like a removal of the damaged part than a repair.
Yep, that was my timeline. On the other hand, Williams had the repair and it's more like 4-6 months.
I also wanted to quote this tweet. I would love if we could get Fizdale to coach here. Maybe we can sneak in and nab him while Lebron is still making up his mind about the Lakers vs everybody else:
https://twitter.com/Espo/status/967927899255848960
Not sure what the appeal of Fiz is. He did a mediocre job with a Grizzlies team. He doesn't believe in analytics in a time when it is at it's premium and has transformed the league. His halftime analysis just now was "lots of assists, that ball is poppin' and they are making shots."
On the other hand, Williams had the repair and it's more like 4-6 months.
