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Split T wrote:Although, Randle since the all star break:

21.5/10.2/3.4 and shooting 58% from the field.

Yeah he’s a stat stuffer but idk I just don’t like his game.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Gordon keeps improving his shooting % every year, and I think Jackson will also improve this next year. Not a huge worry for me. Although, I only pursue Gordon if the Suns pick a dominate 5, think they can't make a trade for Love and think they can get him without the Magic accepting the offer.

INFORMER wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

I think it gives them positional flexibility that you can surround with veteran 3-D players (hopefully). Gordons shot has come a long ways since he was drafted and I think he could end up a quality 37%+ guy from 3 making him quite a good stretch 4 for them.

I have trouble getting past the notion that Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton already led a team together, and that team was bad. I guess that team didn't have Devin Booker on it, nor whichever college stud we draft this year, nor Josh Jackson. But still.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I have trouble getting past the notion that Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton already led a team together, and that team was bad. I guess that team didn't have Devin Booker on it, nor whichever college stud we draft this year, nor Josh Jackson. But still.

Elfrid can go fly a kite.

Yeah Alfred Payten will soon be long forgotten.

I was fooled by his 1st 4 or so games for us, wondering why Orlando gave him away, now we know. He's basically a trash can with a sill haircut. I'd rather play Shaq 35mpg just because he puts in effort on the defensive end.

I cant get over his hair.

sunshoopjunky wrote:I cant get over his hair.

Either can he. Terrible shooting form due to the stupid hair. Yeah, I said it. It's stupid. I can't believe an NBA player would let his hair dictate how he shoots the ball.

I'd still keep him if he'll sign for a fair price. But I don't want to break the bank for the guy.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I have trouble getting past the notion that Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton already led a team together, and that team was bad. I guess that team didn't have Devin Booker on it, nor whichever college stud we draft this year, nor Josh Jackson. But still.

I've always had an issue with FOs trying to put together a good team by signing the best players from the worst teams.

INFORMER wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Aaron's 3p% has gone up pretty much every year in the NBA. He's a respectable PF. Not a guy you break the bank for, but he is 22 years old, improving, and already starting from a place of "pretty good".

Wormwood wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Aaron's 3p% has gone up pretty much every year in the NBA. He's a respectable PF. Not a guy you break the bank for, but he is 22 years old, improving, and already starting from a place of "pretty good".

Yeah, I wouldn't hate it at all. That's a whole lot of relentless rim attacking and high energy play from the SF and PF positions.

Superbone wrote:

Wormwood wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Aaron's 3p% has gone up pretty much every year in the NBA. He's a respectable PF. Not a guy you break the bank for, but he is 22 years old, improving, and already starting from a place of "pretty good".

Yeah, I wouldn't hate it at all. That's a whole lot of relentless rim attacking and high energy play from the SF and PF positions.

But they both suck at shooting. I know they are both "improving" but Jackson is still below 26% (!!!) on the year, and Gordon is below 35%. We need to increase our 3P% immensely. You can't afford to have 3 guys on the court that can't hit the 3. So if we add Gordon, and keep Jackson, we need a high rebouding-rate big, that can block shots/rim protect, and hit 3s above 38%. That is a huge ask.

I would really only want him if we drafted Ayton. I think they’d be good together

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Wormwood wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gordon/JJ/Booker

Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Aaron's 3p% has gone up pretty much every year in the NBA. He's a respectable PF. Not a guy you break the bank for, but he is 22 years old, improving, and already starting from a place of "pretty good".

Yeah, I wouldn't hate it at all. That's a whole lot of relentless rim attacking and high energy play from the SF and PF positions.

But they both suck at shooting. I know they are both "improving" but Jackson is still below 26% (!!!) on the year, and Gordon is below 35%. We need to increase our 3P% immensely. You can't afford to have 3 guys on the court that can't hit the 3. So if we add Gordon, and keep Jackson, we need a high rebouding-rate big, that can block shots/rim protect, and hit 3s above 38%. That is a huge ask.

Or a sharp shooting PG because neither JJ or Gordon clog the lane because they move well without the ball. I don't think the duo would kill spacing, but we definitely still need shooting.

specialsauce wrote:I would really only want him if we drafted Ayton. I think they’d be good together

You think a front court of JJ, Gordon and Ayton can be a great front court in 2-3 years?

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Wormwood wrote:

INFORMER wrote:
Ugh, I hate to have Aaron AND keep Josh Jackson. That's a whole lot of low percentage shot-taking, which isn't a recipe for success.

Aaron's 3p% has gone up pretty much every year in the NBA. He's a respectable PF. Not a guy you break the bank for, but he is 22 years old, improving, and already starting from a place of "pretty good".

Yeah, I wouldn't hate it at all. That's a whole lot of relentless rim attacking and high energy play from the SF and PF positions.

But they both suck at shooting. I know they are both "improving" but Jackson is still below 26% (!!!) on the year, and Gordon is below 35%. We need to increase our 3P% immensely. You can't afford to have 3 guys on the court that can't hit the 3. So if we add Gordon, and keep Jackson, we need a high rebouding-rate big, that can block shots/rim protect, and hit 3s above 38%. That is a huge ask.

Or a sharp shooting PG because neither JJ or Gordon clog the lane because they move well without the ball. I don't think the duo would kill spacing, but we definitely still need shooting.

Even if we have a +40% shooter at the PG, that is just not enough of our starting 5. Just Booker and the PG. We need at least 3 good 3 PT shooters on the floor almost all game.

Indy wrote:

specialsauce wrote:I would really only want him if we drafted Ayton. I think they’d be good together

You think a front court of JJ, Gordon and Ayton can be a great front court in 2-3 years?

I would prefer Bamba. I want a defensive anchor at the C , someone who alters the flow of any offense that is inside the 3pt line, I think Bamba and his length and timing will provide that.