Game Day: Suns (4-18) @ Lakers (13-9), Sun 12/2/18

[The Bobster]

Anderson 7 minutes, -16.

I understand now.

[JeremyG]

Bad coach + bad players = bad things happening on the court. Simple as that.

[JeremyG]

An entry pass should not be that difficult.

[LazarusLong]

Hey ... it's not all bad.

The Cards won in Green Bay!

[The Bobster]

Hey ... it's not all bad.

The Cards won in Green Bay!

For the first time since 1949 according to the announcers.

[LazarusLong]

Hey ... it's not all bad.

The Cards won in Green Bay!

For the first time since 1949 according to the announcers.

yup, when they were the Chicago Cardinals. Both current head coaches (Packers, Cardinals) had yet to be born.

Almost seems that long since the Suns have sniffed the playoffs ...

[LazarusLong]

Lakers emptying their bench. I thought I saw Mike Smrek and Johnny Egan ...

[LazarusLong]

Holmes has outscored Ayton, 13-10. Maybe he should start next game ...

[JeremyG]

Holmes has outscored Ayton, 13-10. Maybe he should start next game ...

I hope you're joking. Ayton had an off shooting night. Holmes with a -24, Ayton with a +0. Ayton with 10 rebounds, Holmes with 1 rebound. With almost identical minutes.

[LazarusLong]

Plus/minus doesn't mean squat in a game like this.
Holmes plays hard, while Ayton spectates too much.
Sending a message to Ayton wouldn't hurt ... it's not like they're going to ruin their playoff chances.

[England Sun]

Plus/minus doesn't mean squat in a game like this.
Holmes plays hard, while Ayton spectates too much.
Sending a message to Ayton wouldn't hurt ... it's not like they're going to ruin their playoff chances.

I actually agree somewhat, but my questions would be...
Would he get the message though?
Does the coach actually have any clue of how to use him?
Wouldn't it be better to play him and spend the whole game making him post up and get involved and make him get others involved?

Just so frustrating watching that, I expected something more from the number 1 who said he and Booker could be Kobe and Shaq 2. He's looking more like Hot Rod Williams (I know, he's got a shot, and get boards, but really, my dead nan could get some points and rebounds if she was that size!)

I may be being really unfair considering we have no real point guard, or that our best player went off in the second quarter, or the bench is next to useless or that 90% of our team is shite, but he could really dominate if he wanted to.

[Superbone]

Well, that was fun.

[LazarusLong]

Good question.
Ayton seems smart enough to get the message.
Whether Coach K would do something like that, who knows.
Sarver might crap himself if his treasured top choice was treated that way.

[Superbone]

I saw one of the worst reffing acts in a while today. Pissed me off. With about 5 minutes left, Holmes hustled and got an offensive rebound and stepped back toward the baseline and layed the ball in. The stupid white, bald ref points to the line and says he stepped out of bound. I didn't think so watching it live. Went back and watched it multiple times, and sure, it was close, maybe within a couple inches but no, he did not step out of bounds. He was right on the baseline when he made the call. This lazy reffing pisses me off!

[Superbone]

Ayton getting bullied by Javale

Ayton's patsy act is getting old.

[Superbone]

And it looks like Books is done

Yep, to add injury to insult. Sucks. Without Booker, this team is screwed.

[Superbone]

Booker with the injury. Tank season has begun. Tryouts for G Leaguers are now open. What a terrible season.

It sure has been. One of the most frustrating times ever in my long history of being a Suns fan.

[Superbone]

We HAVE to start posting Ayton and playing thru him.

This won’t get us any more wins, but for our future it absolutely makes sense. It feels like the coaches are holding him back somehow. I’m sure he could also take more perimeter shots and even sometimes take a three.

Ayton has to take some responsibility too. He too often passes back out when he should take the shot.

[LazarusLong]

"I saw one of the worst reffing acts in a while today."

NBA doesn't care about bad calls against bad teams.
Not saying it's fair or not, that's just reality.
Whatever gravitas the Suns had in the league was lost years ago.

[LazarusLong]

Anderson 7 minutes, -16.

I understand now.

Anderson needs to sit and Bender should get any/all of his minutes.
Management needs to see if Bender has any worth whatsoever.
Anderson, on the other hand, seems to be running (?) on empty.