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Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:39 pm
by INFORMER
I don't know. It feels like it is already too late. I'm not against it, but I'm not sure what it will accomplish. It may not hurt for Ayton to be out another game so we get to see Bender again in a situation where Kokoskov has to play him.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm
by The Bobster
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:29 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:04 pm
This was another game where they lost it down the stretch because they don't have a decent point guard.
We missed a ton of FTs. Gave them more FTs on technicals. A PG isn’t why we lost this game although we could have blown them out with a decent one.
Also, if Bender just makes one of the many open threes he took, we win the game.
Or if Bender doesn't tip that offensive rebound back to Crawford......
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:51 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:29 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:04 pm
This was another game where they lost it down the stretch because they don't have a decent point guard.
We missed a ton of FTs. Gave them more FTs on technicals. A PG isn’t why we lost this game although we could have blown them out with a decent one.
Also, if Bender just makes one of the many open threes he took, we win the game.
Or if Bender doesn't tip that offensive rebound back to Crawford......
He played well. Do doubt.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm
by iLLmatic
Went from losing by 30-50 points to losing to last second shots..#progress
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:00 pm
by TOO
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:39 pm
I don't know. It feels like it is already too late. I'm not against it, but I'm not sure what it will accomplish. It may not hurt for Ayton to be out another game so we get to see Bender again in a situation where Kokoskov has to play him.
He looked alright today.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm
by The Bobster
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm
Went from losing by 30-50 points to losing to last second shots..#progress
I'm not claiming any moral victories, because I don't see any improvement -
2015-16 - 23-59, .280
2016-17 - 24-58, .293
2017-18 - 21-61, .256
2018-19 - 11-37, .229
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:10 pm
by iLLmatic
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm
Went from losing by 30-50 points to losing to last second shots..#progress
I'm not claiming any moral victories, because I don't see any improvement -
2015-16 - 23-59, .280
2016-17 - 24-58, .293
2017-18 - 21-61, .256
2018-19 - 11-37, .229
It was slightly facetious. Sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate well online.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:12 pm
by The Bobster
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:10 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm
Went from losing by 30-50 points to losing to last second shots..#progress
I'm not claiming any moral victories, because I don't see any improvement -
2015-16 - 23-59, .280
2016-17 - 24-58, .293
2017-18 - 21-61, .256
2018-19 - 11-37, .229
It was slightly facetious. Sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate well online.
Yeah, we all run into that problem I think!
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:17 am
by Gladiator
Tough loss after they battled hard. I'm glad for Bender that he got to show something. I still think he'll be a useful player somewhere - yes in the NBA!
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:51 am
by Mori Chu
Dragan Bender is an NBA power forward, and we have failed him. Give the guy even halfway regular minutes and he produces and grows. But we decided he was worthless, and so he has become worthless.
Josh Jackson also had a good game.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:21 am
by Democritus
You are clearly dreaming Marty, Bender would not play even on a mediocre Euroleague team. He is that bad.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:55 am
by Nodack
Bender did alright. When I saw tha Ayton and Holmes were out and he was starting I thought they would crush us. He defended pretty well and didn’t foul out. His 3pt shooting was not there to say the least. The Suns just kind of came apart at the end and Rose can still play.
Overall I was pretty surprised they were even in the game and they led for a lot of it.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:25 am
by djy2j
Democritus wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:21 am
You are clearly dreaming Marty, Bender would not play even on a mediocre Euroleague team. He is that bad.
Agreed. He still has a long way to go. He may progress quicker when another team gives him a shot but PHX is not a spot where a guy like him can thrive.
Re: Game Day: Suns (11-36) @ Timberwolves (21-24), Sun 1/20/19
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:43 pm
by Indy
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:22 pm
I don't understand why we couldn't have given more time to both Melton and Okobo.
Yeah, I really don't get it. There can't be a mandate from Jones to play Crawford, right? I have a hard time believing that Igor is watching the same games we are, and decides to play him.
Melton and Okobo were positive in +/- last night in very limited minutes. JC was a -11 in his 3 minutes to start the 4th. oof.