Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
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He was shooting 50% as a starter. He fell out of rhythm when he went back to the bench.
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I guess we should move Ayton to the bench...start Crowder and Frank
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Re: Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
I wasn't expecting much from Jalen year 1 and I'm yet still disappointed. I don't like the excuse that has been used in the past of "he didn't get a training camp." Yeah neither did any of the other rookies. I know he had Covid and that sucks so I can give him a pass on that but the Suns are real contender-ish this season and really wish we'd have someone who can contribute this season using his roster spot. Maybe Jalen continues to develop but right now he doesn't look anything close to an NBA player.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:45 amThey just used the #10 to draft this guy who happens to be a PF/C...The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:03 amAnd he still looked much better than Saric did. The need a third option to play at center when Saric hasn't got it. Even having Cheick Diallo at the end of the bench would be an improvement over nothing.
Seriously, they need to give him minutes, even if it is just 8-12. If he was not going to crack the rotation at all, might as well traded out of the draft.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
If we had drafted Haliburton I think we would have done something to solidify our PF/C position at the deadline or buy-out market. We would look to be set in the backcourt and likely not feel we had to keep Jevon, Payne, Gallo, Alexander and Moore to support CP3/Book. Changing out one of those guys for someone over 6-8/225 would be helpful.djy2j wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:20 amI wasn't expecting much from Jalen year 1 and I'm yet still disappointed. I don't like the excuse that has been used in the past of "he didn't get a training camp." Yeah neither did any of the other rookies. I know he had Covid and that sucks so I can give him a pass on that but the Suns are real contender-ish this season and really wish we'd have someone who can contribute this season using his roster spot. Maybe Jalen continues to develop but right now he doesn't look anything close to an NBA player.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:45 amThey just used the #10 to draft this guy who happens to be a PF/C...The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:03 amAnd he still looked much better than Saric did. The need a third option to play at center when Saric hasn't got it. Even having Cheick Diallo at the end of the bench would be an improvement over nothing.
Seriously, they need to give him minutes, even if it is just 8-12. If he was not going to crack the rotation at all, might as well traded out of the draft.
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Would have liked Haliburton in hindsight but the more I read the more I feel his camp told the Suns not to draft him so I'm not too upset about not getting him now. Still need a rebounding big.
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I wonder if he's rethinking that decision now.
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All true. I'm sure he'll get used to the losing in time.
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Did book?Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pmAll true. I'm sure he'll get used to the losing in time.
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Last I checked, he's winning more than he loses these days. Only team with a longer drought from the playoffs? Yeah, you guessed it, the Sacramento Kings.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:48 pmDid book?Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pmAll true. I'm sure he'll get used to the losing in time.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
Right. Book played a ton of minutes on bad teams and worked on his game while we paid him more than any other team could. I doubt he has any regrets, and there is no reason to think Haliburton will either.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
I really liked him at the draft and was expecting a rotation spot at least, given our lack of athleticism and obvious hole at PF. Hate to see this is a wasted year, especially with Hali available. I am not sure Hali told the Suns not to draft him but in any case my guess is JJones simply saw the backup pg well covered with Payne and Carter, needing just a minor addition like Moore.djy2j wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:20 amI wasn't expecting much from Jalen year 1 and I'm yet still disappointed. I don't like the excuse that has been used in the past of "he didn't get a training camp." Yeah neither did any of the other rookies. I know he had Covid and that sucks so I can give him a pass on that but the Suns are real contender-ish this season and really wish we'd have someone who can contribute this season using his roster spot. Maybe Jalen continues to develop but right now he doesn't look anything close to an NBA player.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:45 amThey just used the #10 to draft this guy who happens to be a PF/C...The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:03 amAnd he still looked much better than Saric did. The need a third option to play at center when Saric hasn't got it. Even having Cheick Diallo at the end of the bench would be an improvement over nothing.
Seriously, they need to give him minutes, even if it is just 8-12. If he was not going to crack the rotation at all, might as well traded out of the draft.
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One other thing that has hurt Smith is that we haven't had a lot of true "garbage time" this season. We've won a ton of games, but most of them have been close, or at least it's felt that way. We haven't had a lot of games where we were up by 20-30 points and could just throw a guy like Smith out there to get reps. I think he should be back in the G-League just so that he'd play. I don't think being with the team in practice is as valuable as having him out on a real court playing games. He didn't seem to be doing that well even in his G-League games, so it seems like he should spend more time there until he kind of "outgrows" it and is consistently looking like he's ready to come back.
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G league is over for the season
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Exactly. He got 27 points just by making the simple, average basketball plays while being engaged for around 20 minutes of play. Running the floor. Making quick moves on offense. Looking to take advantage of basketball plays. We didn't see Ayton on fire, draining a bunch of perimeter jumpers. We didn't see Ayton executing a ton high-level, one-on-one moves. Just regular basketball plays. Beating his man down the floor. Catching lobs. Getting good positioning and executing a simple jumphook. SIMPLE STUFF. And it got him 27 points. That's why I essentially have no tolerance for his lackluster play this. Just a lot of stupid, frustrating basketball from him this year.
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Re: Game Day: Suns (34-14) @ Rockets (16-36), Mon 4/5/21
That's not it. He struggled against PJ Tucker last year. Christian Wood, Kelly Olynyk, and DJ Wilson aren't that significant of a difference in size than what a lot of teams are throwing out there at the 5. And a lot of times in there games, there are switches where the other players besides the opposing 5 gets stuck on Ayton.
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The G League isn't running anymore games this season.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:51 amI think he should be back in the G-League just so that he'd play. I don't think being with the team in practice is as valuable as having him out on a real court playing games. He didn't seem to be doing that well even in his G-League games, so it seems like he should spend more time there until he kind of "outgrows" it and is consistently looking like he's ready to come back.
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