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Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:48 pm
by Split T
Ya I’d hesitate to trade Payne for a few reasons…Gordon is super intriguing though. I’d happily move Shamet for him, but he can’t be traded. Gordon is shooting like 44% from 3 on a high volume. He can also get to the rim unlike any of our other wings. He’s got some size and has actually become a pretty good defender. He’s older and his contract is a tough one to swallow. He’s 18 million this year, 19 million next, then a non guaranteed 21 million season.
I don’t think we can get him with just Saric/Smith contract wise. Think we’d have to throw in another small deal. I’d jump all over Saric/Smith and a 1st if it works though.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:57 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Shamet and Gordon would be redundant and the drop-off in ballhandling/offensive facilitator by losing Cam Payne would probably require more minutes for Elfrid Payton, which no one wants to see.
That's not to say I don't like Gordon. He's expensive, but can absolutely swing playoff games. I expect he'll be on a playoff team by the time we get to the trade deadline.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:12 pm
by ShelC
Everyone's just itching to make a trade for a 21-5 team.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:15 pm
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:12 pm
Everyone's just itching to make a trade for a 21-5 team.
Even more reason. Gotta go all in when we have a shot.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:16 pm
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:57 pm
Shamet and Gordon would be redundant and the drop-off in ballhandling/offensive facilitator by losing Cam Payne would probably require more minutes for Elfrid Payton, which no one wants to see.
That's not to say I don't like Gordon. He's expensive, but can absolutely swing playoff games. I expect he'll be on a playoff team by the time we get to the trade deadline.
Ya a little redundant, which is why I’d love to put Shamet in the trade as Gordon is better. Can’t imagine it’s something we are looking at though.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:34 pm
by Shabazz
I wouldn’t give up assets of significance for Eric Gordon. He can’t stay healthy.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:23 am
by ShelC
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:15 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:12 pm
Everyone's just itching to make a trade for a 21-5 team.
Even more reason. Gotta go all in when we have a shot.
Making that trade isn't the move tho. I'd be OK adding him if he were a buyout candidate and wanted to come here with no guarantee of minutes. But trading Shamet or Payne for a soon to be 33yr old with his history of injuries is too risky. Messes with the chemistry we have and also ages us up a bit, which is something we need to avoid if we're not interested in drafting for the future.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:27 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:23 am
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:15 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:12 pm
Everyone's just itching to make a trade for a 21-5 team.
Even more reason. Gotta go all in when we have a shot.
Making that trade isn't the move tho. I'd be OK adding him if he were a buyout candidate and wanted to come here with no guarantee of minutes. But trading Shamet or Payne for a soon to be 33yr old with his history of injuries is too risky. Messes with the chemistry we have and also ages us up a bit, which is something we need to avoid if we're not interested in drafting for the future.
Gordon is way too good to be a buyout guy, but I do see your point. I wasn’t sure if I’d be willing to include Payne, but I would do it for Shamet no question, Gordon is just better in every way, except maybe health
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:12 pm
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:27 am
Gordon is way too good to be a buyout guy, but I do see your point. I wasn’t sure if I’d be willing to include Payne, but I would do it for Shamet no question, Gordon is just better in every way, except maybe health
If they want Shamet, Smith, and a 2nd rounder, we'll talk. If they want Payne or future 1sts, we hang up.
Re: Game Day: Suns (21-4) @ Clippers (15-12), Monday December 13
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:29 pm
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:12 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:27 am
Gordon is way too good to be a buyout guy, but I do see your point. I wasn’t sure if I’d be willing to include Payne, but I would do it for Shamet no question, Gordon is just better in every way, except maybe health
If they want Shamet, Smith, and a 2nd rounder, we'll talk. If they want Payne or future 1sts, we hang up.
Shamet can’t be traded, so it’s a moot point