Game Day: Jazz (37-22) @ Suns (49-11), Sun 2/27/22

[Split T]

Bench was rough…Ayton had an awesome offensive 1st half but he didn’t do much in the 2nd half. We really need Payne back. Need someone who can do something offensively when Booker rests. Holiday had a falling back to earth game today for us. Shamet still gave us nothing. Craig didn’t do anything. Even Frank in the 2nd unit today could have been useful.

Starters were good…that Crowder pass though at the end smh…why would we not call a timeout? 6 seconds to grab a rebound, bring the ball up and take a 3? I get it it if Paul or Booker grab the rebound, but not if it’s Crowder.

[Superbone]

Total brain fart by Crowder. That was a ridiculously uncatchable pass.

[iLLmatic]

Have we lost 2 in a row this year yet? Cam Payne has been pissing me off lately.

[specialsauce]

After Biz initial stint with DA out Monty was willing to still give him a look if it meant all 3 centers played
He's not done that recently and I not sure why

I know Biz is a "small" center and they have Gobert/Whiteside but man JaVale was brutal

I am over Javale.

This team needs consistency and smart players in the playoffs. That’s how we got so far last year. Javale is going to derail us and our momentum in a playoff game and cost us a game I guarantee it. Would rather have a less talented but steadier hand in Biz who doesn’t play outside his comfort zone.

[specialsauce]

Bench was rough…Ayton had an awesome offensive 1st half but he didn’t do much in the 2nd half. We really need Payne back. Need someone who can do something offensively when Booker rests. Holiday had a falling back to earth game today for us. Shamet still gave us nothing. Craig didn’t do anything. Even Frank in the 2nd unit today could have been useful.

Starters were good…that Crowder pass though at the end smh…why would we not call a timeout? 6 seconds to grab a rebound, bring the ball up and take a 3? I get it it if Paul or Booker grab the rebound, but not if it’s Crowder.

That last play is all
On Monty but still we should not have gotten to that point.

Stupid play. Again getting away from DA and just letting him get taken out of the offensive game plan so easily is a fail.

[bajanguy008]

Always enjoy his insight




I also expected the only major adjustment to be offense so this is interesting. Look forward to his video breakdown
Just focusing on the ball, it "looks great" to see us switching everything and really pressing up, getting into guys on the perimeter. We have been here in the back end on rotations for real though

[bajanguy008]

After Biz initial stint with DA out Monty was willing to still give him a look if it meant all 3 centers played
He's not done that recently and I not sure why

I know Biz is a "small" center and they have Gobert/Whiteside but man JaVale was brutal

I am over Javale.

This team needs consistency and smart players in the playoffs. That’s how we got so far last year. Javale is going to derail us and our momentum in a playoff game and cost us a game I guarantee it. Would rather have a less talented but steadier hand in Biz who doesn’t play outside his comfort zone.

Can't fault you for this opinion
When he gets it high post and the first dribble hand off isn't there, it's hold our breath time

[The Bobster]

They have done a wonderful job in correcting the problem with frontcourt depth that they had at the end of the playoffs last year. I just hope they take a similar look at the backcourt this summer.

We have a shooter coming off the bench who can't shoot (Shamet) and a point guard who is pretty much unplayable under any circumstances (Payton). i would feel a lot more comfortable if they had a backup for booker who could make create his own shot and make open shots, and played with some consistency. Also we need the 2020-21 Payne when he comes back. That would alleviate some of the problems.

[Split T]

So you’re saying Eric Gordon would’ve been helpful…or had we just drafted Haliburton or Bane

[specialsauce]

I hate the Twitter folk saying the D adjusted to DA and that’s why he didn’t get the ball. That’s bullshit. We still find a way to get Book, CP3 their looks no matter what when they’re rolling. But DA can just be allowed to disappear?? That’s all coaching

[The Bobster]

So you’re saying Eric Gordon would’ve been helpful…or had we just drafted Haliburton or Bane

I was thinking Gordon.

[The Bobster]

I hate the Twitter folk saying the D adjusted to DA and that’s why he didn’t get the ball. That’s bullshit. We still find a way to get Book, CP3 their looks no matter what when they’re rolling. But DA can just be allowed to disappear?? That’s all coaching

Hubie Brown made a point of saying how great he was playing despite them not running any plays for him.

Well, he was, but sometime they need to run some fucking plays for him!

[Split T]

I hate the Twitter folk saying the D adjusted to DA and that’s why he didn’t get the ball. That’s bullshit. We still find a way to get Book, CP3 their looks no matter what when they’re rolling. But DA can just be allowed to disappear?? That’s all coaching

The difference is Book and CP3 initiate the offense. I agree we do need to look for him more, but I’m not in favor of forcing it to him. He also dropped a pass on the roll down the stretch and went up soft and got blocked by Rudy on another one. He also wasted time complaining he got fouled and didn’t get back on D after the one that was blocked.

[specialsauce]

I hate the Twitter folk saying the D adjusted to DA and that’s why he didn’t get the ball. That’s bullshit. We still find a way to get Book, CP3 their looks no matter what when they’re rolling. But DA can just be allowed to disappear?? That’s all coaching

Hubie Brown made a point of saying how great he was playing despite them not running any plays for him.

Well, he was, but sometime they need to run some fucking plays for him!

It’s ridiculous.

We use that excuse that the defense adjusted only with respect to DA. Get him the fucking ball when he went for 17 in the first half.

[specialsauce]

I hate the Twitter folk saying the D adjusted to DA and that’s why he didn’t get the ball. That’s bullshit. We still find a way to get Book, CP3 their looks no matter what when they’re rolling. But DA can just be allowed to disappear?? That’s all coaching

The difference is Book and CP3 initiate the offense. I agree we do need to look for him more, but I’m not in favor of forcing it to him. He also dropped a pass on the roll down the stretch and went up soft and got blocked by Rudy on another one. He also wasted time complaining he got fouled and didn’t get back on D after the one that was blocked.

Yeah those happened after he touched the ball once the entire third and fourth Q basically until those plays in crunch time. Now completely out of rhythm.

[Mori Chu]

The team is frustrating to watch without CP3. Is point guard the most important position in the NBA? Setting up an offense, making sure guys get good looks and touches, it's so important. You can have a great scoring SG like Booker and a bunch of excellent shooters on the wings, and even a strong big man on both ends of the floor in Ayton, and yet if the offense isn't set up the right way, it all kind of falls apart. A lot of our guys lose a lot of their value on offense if they can't receive good passes for open shots. Ayton and our other centers are much less effective on offense without CP3's P&R, and most of our wings end up taking contested 3s that are harder to make. Then Book has to try to put the team on his back by making low-percentage shots and playing hero ball. Having Payne back would help but wouldn't fix some of these issues. Not very mad at Crowder for the turnover at the end; it's just one play, and he had a strong game otherwise.

Get well soon, CP3.

[Split T]

Primary initiators are definitely the most important nba players. For most teams that would be the pg.

[specialsauce]

The team is frustrating to watch without CP3. Is point guard the most important position in the NBA? Setting up an offense, making sure guys get good looks and touches, it's so important. You can have a great scoring SG like Booker and a bunch of excellent shooters on the wings, and even a strong big man on both ends of the floor in Ayton, and yet if the offense isn't set up the right way, it all kind of falls apart. A lot of our guys lose a lot of their value on offense if they can't receive good passes for open shots. Ayton and our other centers are much less effective on offense without CP3's P&R, and most of our wings end up taking contested 3s that are harder to make. Then Book has to try to put the team on his back by making low-percentage shots and playing hero ball. Having Payne back would help but wouldn't fix some of these issues. Not very mad at Crowder for the turnover at the end; it's just one play, and he had a strong game otherwise.

Get well soon, CP3.

Idk man this is a pretty bland take that sounds like a National writer would say without watching the games. dA had 17 points on 8-10 shooting in the first half and it was mostly hook and jump shots.

We had absolutely no problem without CP3 to start either half. Our problem is when we start making subs they suck ass. It’s pretty simple. You can’t have Javale and Landry on the court at the same time with Craig as well. They lost all momentum both times.

[Vladimir_Taltos]

So you’re saying Eric Gordon would’ve been helpful…or had we just drafted Haliburton or Bane

What that guy said!!!!!

[bajanguy008]

Ahhh the good ole days of lots of venting and I'm left to feel like I'm one of the rose coloured, sipping all the Kool-aid fans