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Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 8:50 am
by In2ition
REVEALED: George Soros, Clinton and Obama staffers and European governments are behind anti-Musk campaign to force big corporations to boycott Twitter - after Elon demanded to know 'who funds these organizations?'
- A group of 26 activist organizations and NGOs signed a letter to companies who advertise on Twitter, warning them to reconsider if Elon Musk makes changes
- Musk has pledged to lift the 'censorship' of Twitter: critics worry that he will give free rein to those trafficking in hate speech and dangerous scientific theories
- The letter writers said that Musk 'will further toxify our information ecosystem and be a direct threat to public safety'
- They wrote: 'Twitter risks becoming a cesspool of misinformation, with your brand attached'
- Musk replied, wanting to know who was behind the 26 groups signing the letter, and commenting: 'Sunlight is the best disinfectant'
By HARRIET ALEXANDER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 01:03 EDT, 4 May 2022 | UPDATED: 11:34 EDT, 4 May 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... paign.html
Some of the most high-profile liberal figures have joined together to encourage advertisers to boycott Twitter if Elon Musk brings in his promised policy of unfettered 'free speech.'
Twenty six NGOs and advocacy groups signed a letter expressing concern about the world's richest man's plan.
Musk himself responded to the letter asking who funded them: the answer being an assortment of 'dark money groups' like George Soros's Open Society Foundation; NGOs founded by former Clinton and Obama administration staffers; wealthy Democrat donors and their family foundations; labor unions; and the governments of European nations.
'Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter will further toxify our information ecosystem and be a direct threat to public safety, especially among those already most vulnerable and marginalized,' they wrote.
They warned that advertising on Twitter would see their company 'risks association with a platform amplifying hate, extremism, health misinformation, and conspiracy theorists.'
The authors continued: 'Under Musk's management, Twitter risks becoming a cesspool of misinformation, with your brand attached, polluting our information ecosystem in a time where trust in institutions and news media is already at an all-time low.
'Your ad dollars can either fund Musk's vanity project or hold him to account. We call on you to demand Musk uphold these basic standards of community trust and safety, and to pull your advertising spending from Twitter if they are not.'
Musk, in response to the letter, tweeted: 'Who funds these organizations that want to control your access to information? Let's investigate …'
Piqued by the critique, he added: 'Sunlight is the best disinfectant.'
The letter signed by the 26 groups was sent on headed paper bearing the logos of Accountable Tech, Media Matters for America, and Ultraviolet.
ACCOUNTABLE TECH - NICOLE GILL, CO-FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
Accountable Tech is a Washington DC-based group led by Nicole Gill, a political campaigner and founder of the 2017 Tax March, and Jesse Lehrich, a former foreign policy spokesman for Hillary Clinton's campaign and the nephew of David Axelrod, former senior adviser to Barack Obama.
'Social media giants are eroding our consensus reality and pushing democracy to the brink,' they state on their website.
'Accountable Tech is fighting back.'
Founded in May 2020, the group is a 501(c)(4), which means it does not have to disclose its donor list, and it does not say on the website who funds it.
MEDIA MATTERS FOR AMERICA - DAVID BROCK, FOUNDER AND CHAIRMAN
Media Matters for America was begun in May 2004 by David Brock - a former conservative journalist who turned liberal, and in 2017 was described by Politico as the 'Democrats' attack dog'.
'The Clinton enforcer, who raised tens of millions of dollars and created a far-reaching web of outside groups to push her presidential candidacy, is now training his sights on Trump,' they wrote at the time.
'Brock is rallying Democratic megadonors behind his cause and while he can be controversial at times, few bet against his efforts. His tentacles are far-reaching, including his media monitoring nonprofit Media Matters and the opposition research super PAC American Bridge.'
Media Matters for America says it is 'dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.'
According to Influence Watch, the group was founded with about $2 million in donations from prominent liberal donors, such as Susie Tompkins Buell, the 78-year-old co-founder of clothing brands Esprit and The North Face; Leo Hindery, 74, a private equity investor specializing in media; and James Hormel, who died in August aged 88.
Hormel was heir to a meatpacking fortune, and the first openly gay man to represent the United States as an ambassador - to Luxembourg, from 1997. He also co-founded in 1981 the Human Rights Campaign - the nation's preeminent gay rights group.
Media Matters is funded by a coalition of donors, including the National Education Association - America's largest union, representing teachers and other school staff - and several Jewish groups, such as the Combined Jewish Philanthropies of Greater Boston and Community Foundation of the United Jewish Federation of San Diego.
ULTRAVIOLET - NITA CHAUDHARY, CO-FOUNDER, AND SHAUNNA THOMAS, CO-FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
UltraViolet is the newest of the trio, founded in 2012.
'UltraViolet is a powerful and rapidly growing community of people mobilized to fight sexism and create a more inclusive world that accurately represents all women, from politics and government to media and pop culture,' they state on their website.
'We founded UltraViolet on the principle that with a combination of organizing, technology, creative campaigning, and people power, we can win. Ultraviolet leads creative, breakthrough campaigns that have won victories from politics to culture.'
The group is also backed by several unions - among them the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO), and the American Federation of Teachers.
Musk is famously anti-union, and has been excluded from White House electric vehicle manufacturing events due to the fact that Tesla's workforce is not unionized.
UltraViolet is backed by numerous family foundations, including that founded by Warren Buffet's son Peter, NoVo Foundation.
NoVo works to help marginalized and oppressed groups in society.
It is also supported by one of the many Pritzker family's foundations, Libra.
The Chicago-based billionaires are members of one of America's richest families who made their money largely through the Hyatt hotel chain.
Nicholas Pritzker, 76, and his wife Susan founded the Libra Foundation in 2002, and the organization now 'supports frontline organizations building a world where communities of color thrive.'
FAIR VOTE UK - KYLE TAYLOR, FOUNDER
Not all of the 26 groups that signed the letter are U.S. based.
Fair Vote UK, a British group that works to 'tackle the issue of data misuse, voter manipulation and lack of transparency in elections', is among the signatories.
A small-scale group, they declare all donations over £500 ($624), and only confirm five such donations on their site.
CENTER FOR COUNTERING DIGITAL HATE - IMRAN AHMED, FOUNDER AND CEO
Another British-based signatory was the Center for Countering Digital Hate, led by a former advisor to senior figures in the Labour Party, Imran Ahmed.
The group has expanded to have an office in Washington DC, but their work is largely British.
'The Center is best known for working with Rachel Riley to remove controversial far-right commentator Katie Hopkins from Twitter and conspiracy theorist David Icke from Facebook and Youtube,' according to Influence Watch.
ACCESS NOW - BRETT SOLOMON, CAMERAN ASHRAF, SINA RABBANI AND KIM PHAM, CO-FOUNDERS
European governments are strongly involved in backing another of the signatories - Access Now.
Begun during the 2009 Iranian election, as an activist group to organize and protest election fraud and report on human rights abuses, the group is now global with offices worldwide.
Their largest donor, according to their latest report, is the Swedish government's development agency, Sida, followed by Soros' Open Society Foundations.
The governments of Denmark, Germany and the Netherlands have contributed large amounts, as well as Canada's government.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:23 am
by Mori Chu
:eyeroll:
Re: Social media
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 9:02 pm
by ShadowHawke
Why do Democrats hate free speech?
Re: Social media
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 9:34 pm
by Indy
ShadowHawke wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 9:02 pm
Why do Democrats hate free speech?

what books are being banned by them?
Re: Social media
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 10:06 pm
by Mori Chu
SOROS IS AT IT AGAIN
Re: Social media
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:29 am
by Mori Chu
Musk's purchase of Twitter may be off. He says it's due to a pending investigation about bot accounts, but that sounds like BS to me. Everybody already knows there are some bots on Twitter. The excuse sounds like cover for some kind of other issue, such as maybe a funding problem, or maybe cold feet / changing his mind about wanting to buy. Or maybe it's all an elaborate game to cause Twitter's share price to drop, so that then he can make a new lower bid to buy it more cheaply. Or something. Anyway:
Re: Social media
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:25 am
by Indy
With the drop in nearly everything the last few weeks, his TSLA leverage isn't nearly as big. So it might impact his funding. And TWTR is trading around $41/share, and he offered ~54?
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:14 pm
by Mori Chu
Elon officially comes out as a Republican. Says the Dems are the party of hate. Sure.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:00 pm
by Nodack
As he buys Twitter just to own the Libs.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:10 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
by Mori Chu
It seems like things are not looking so good for Elon. His bid to take over Twitter is going poorly; he is having trouble securing the money to buy it, and now he's trying to wiggle out of the purchase. Meanwhile the price is going down, making it a bad deal in the first place. Also Tesla stock is falling due to shaken confidence. And now he comes out and takes a partisan political position that may alienate half of his company's customers. If you read this guy's tweets he sounds like an immature 12 year old boy who still thinks it's funny to make "69" and "420" jokes and make fun of fat people and "the libs." He comes across as a real piece of work. Would you invest in this guy?
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:39 pm
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
It seems like things are not looking so good for Elon. His bid to take over Twitter is going poorly; he is having trouble securing the money to buy it, and now he's trying to wiggle out of the purchase. Meanwhile the price is going down, making it a bad deal in the first place. Also Tesla stock is falling due to shaken confidence.
And now he comes out and takes a partisan political position that may alienate half of his company's customers. If you read this guy's tweets he sounds like an immature 12 year old boy who still thinks it's funny to make "69" and "420" jokes and make fun of fat people and "the libs." He comes across as a real piece of work. Would you invest in this guy?
I have a hard time believing that half of Tesla customers are GOP voters.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:43 pm
by In2ition
That's quite the framing. He's been getting political attacks since he started talking about buying Twitter and became the largest stock holder. It's hardly a surprise that anything he says will now be scrutinized and twisted in the way that makes that person feel better about themselves. Nearly every stock is down, so I'm not personally surprised that Tesla is taking a hit also. I also don't know if it's a fact that he can't get the funds to make the purchase.
He hasn't been able to get Parag to verify with certainty that Twitter is populated with less than 5% of bots. You could point to quite number of indicators that show that's not actually the case and it is much higher. This would open him up after the sale is final for a lot of lawsuits from stockholders, investors, users and advertisers as they base their own value and money they have on it being <5%, if it's indeed found to be much higher.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:51 pm
by Indy
He is just backing out because that is what he does. It is weird to see you defending this guy all of the sudden. I wonder why.
I have been talking about what a shitty person he is for years. Nothing here is based on party affiliation or if he wants to buy twitter.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:55 pm
by In2ition
I don't know if he's good or bad, but you apparently have made up your mind that he's a shitty person. That's fine for you.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:16 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
It seems like things are not looking so good for Elon. His bid to take over Twitter is going poorly; he is having trouble securing the money to buy it, and now he's trying to wiggle out of the purchase. Meanwhile the price is going down, making it a bad deal in the first place. Also Tesla stock is falling due to shaken confidence. And now he comes out and takes a partisan political position that may alienate half of his company's customers. If you read this guy's tweets he sounds like an immature 12 year old boy who still thinks it's funny to make "69" and "420" jokes and make fun of fat people and "the libs." He comes across as a real piece of work. Would you invest in this guy?
Teslas can fart on command. That's all you need to know.
Re: Social media
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:23 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:16 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
It seems like things are not looking so good for Elon. His bid to take over Twitter is going poorly; he is having trouble securing the money to buy it, and now he's trying to wiggle out of the purchase. Meanwhile the price is going down, making it a bad deal in the first place. Also Tesla stock is falling due to shaken confidence. And now he comes out and takes a partisan political position that may alienate half of his company's customers. If you read this guy's tweets he sounds like an immature 12 year old boy who still thinks it's funny to make "69" and "420" jokes and make fun of fat people and "the libs." He comes across as a real piece of work. Would you invest in this guy?
Teslas can fart on command. That's all you need to know.
And you know none of the engineers and designers that worked on these cars for YEARS before Elon bought the company ever spent time for that. But he has a "genius" moment and flew into the room and said "I got it!"
Re: Social media
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:45 am
by Nodack
Indy wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:39 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
It seems like things are not looking so good for Elon. His bid to take over Twitter is going poorly; he is having trouble securing the money to buy it, and now he's trying to wiggle out of the purchase. Meanwhile the price is going down, making it a bad deal in the first place. Also Tesla stock is falling due to shaken confidence.
And now he comes out and takes a partisan political position that may alienate half of his company's customers. If you read this guy's tweets he sounds like an immature 12 year old boy who still thinks it's funny to make "69" and "420" jokes and make fun of fat people and "the libs." He comes across as a real piece of work. Would you invest in this guy?
I have a hard time believing that half of Tesla customers are GOP voters.
Good point. Electric cars, wind and solar are bad words in the GOP vocabulary.
Re: Social media
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:48 am
by Nodack
Indy wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:51 pm
He is just backing out because that is what he does. It is weird to see you defending this guy all of the sudden. I wonder why.
I have been talking about what a shitty person he is for years. Nothing here is based on party affiliation or if he wants to buy twitter.
That you have.
Re: Social media
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:51 am
by Indy
Nodack wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 9:48 am
Indy wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:51 pm
He is just backing out because that is what he does. It is weird to see you defending this guy all of the sudden. I wonder why.
I have been talking about what a shitty person he is for years. Nothing here is based on party affiliation or if he wants to buy twitter.
That you have.
lol