Re: Suns News: Week 4 (11/7-11/13)
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:07 pm
I love Mikal but id trade him for KD so fast.
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Where?! Twitter?! Come on. He is 24. He is Sacramento's franchise player. That's like the Suns wanting to get off of Devin Booker's deal because he had a bad playoff game.
Shel is right that Toppin would the better player to target. Randle seems like the classic bad acquisition a team makes when they know their window is closing and they're desperate to keep it open.
Ya that’s not true at all. I saw it on Twitter, heard it on podcasts. He was trending the wrong way last season and Fox hasn’t even played in the playoffs. He’s not on the same level as Booker. Fox also hasn’t played 60 games since his 2nd year.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:42 pmWhere?! Twitter?! Come on. He is 24. He is Sacramento's franchise player. That's like the Suns wanting to get off of Devin Booker's deal because he had a bad playoff game.
If the Kings had any desire to move Fox, they would have kept Haliburton. And if they inexplicably have a change of heart, there is a Dejounte Murray deal waiting for them.
He has stayed out of foul trouble his entire career. Are people seriously using this as an argument now? Lol. After he's played 7 games this season?Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:35 pmMikal is great value, even without the cap spike. Ya I’d love if he was more consistently able to create offense, but he provides a bunch of value. Our problem is paying max money to a C that can’t stay out of foul trouble and can’t create his own shot. That plus CP3 looks like Rubio so far and we’re paying him 30 million.
Also paying 30 million combined to Crowder/Saric/Shamet and getting nothing out of them.
Good to see you come around on Randle. I still think he's a great option for solving our PF need.
He has, but he’s also made comments saying this is how he’s planning to play now, so we’ll see.JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:07 amHe has stayed out of foul trouble his entire career. Are people seriously using this as an argument now? Lol. After he's played 7 games this season?Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:35 pmMikal is great value, even without the cap spike. Ya I’d love if he was more consistently able to create offense, but he provides a bunch of value. Our problem is paying max money to a C that can’t stay out of foul trouble and can’t create his own shot. That plus CP3 looks like Rubio so far and we’re paying him 30 million.
Also paying 30 million combined to Crowder/Saric/Shamet and getting nothing out of them.
I thought you never believe his talk?Split T wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:23 amHe has, but he’s also made comments saying this is how he’s planning to play now, so we’ll see.JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:07 amHe has stayed out of foul trouble his entire career. Are people seriously using this as an argument now? Lol. After he's played 7 games this season?Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:35 pmMikal is great value, even without the cap spike. Ya I’d love if he was more consistently able to create offense, but he provides a bunch of value. Our problem is paying max money to a C that can’t stay out of foul trouble and can’t create his own shot. That plus CP3 looks like Rubio so far and we’re paying him 30 million.
Also paying 30 million combined to Crowder/Saric/Shamet and getting nothing out of them.
We would have picked Booker as well.MightyMoog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:21 amI honestly think the fans would’ve done better than Ryan McDonough.
Josh Jackson over Fox,
Bender over Jamal Murray
Trading Bogie for Chriss
Ayton over Luka
Basically he got lucky once with Booker.
Jones has been a bit better but not really.
Cam J has been great, but us fans would’ve taken Brandon Clarke and that would still be ok.
Passing on Halliburton was also a mistake.
Considering all these blunders, I just thank god we’re still fielding a competitive team. We could easily be the Kings right now.
You should have said something!JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:42 amI was at another event with James Jones recently, and just listening to him talk about his philosophy leaves me a bit scared for the future. He was talking about how their focus in the offseason was all about internal growth and continuity, and that they didn't execute their scheme well enough in the playoffs and just need to execute better. He said they try to block out all the noise and outside opinions. And that if they hit a rough patch the "noise" will be back and they have to just ignore it and focus internally. He said that he loves Monty and that he's the best, but that coaches always ask for more--they want more shooters, they want another All-Star on the roster, etc. He said something like, "Don't you think if we could just get another All-Star we would have?" And with regard to scouting, he said something about there only being a handful of players internationally that actually have basketball talent and that need to be scouted.
Let's just say I'm not too hopeful about any significant moves being made.
I don’t know that I’ve ever said that. I always get hopeful that the Ayton talk will actually prove true, but I’ve been disappointed every time. But this is also an easier thing to believe. He’s not talking about showing us unseen skills, he’s talking about continuing to do something he’s already doing.JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:34 amI thought you never believe his talk?Split T wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:23 amHe has, but he’s also made comments saying this is how he’s planning to play now, so we’ll see.JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:07 amHe has stayed out of foul trouble his entire career. Are people seriously using this as an argument now? Lol. After he's played 7 games this season?Split T wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:35 pmMikal is great value, even without the cap spike. Ya I’d love if he was more consistently able to create offense, but he provides a bunch of value. Our problem is paying max money to a C that can’t stay out of foul trouble and can’t create his own shot. That plus CP3 looks like Rubio so far and we’re paying him 30 million.
Also paying 30 million combined to Crowder/Saric/Shamet and getting nothing out of them.![]()
There was a lot of Jackson and Bender fans on this board. I don’t really remember very many Murray fans. I know this board would not have drafted ChrissSuperbone wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:05 pmWe would have picked Booker as well.MightyMoog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:21 amI honestly think the fans would’ve done better than Ryan McDonough.
Josh Jackson over Fox,
Bender over Jamal Murray
Trading Bogie for Chriss
Ayton over Luka
Basically he got lucky once with Booker.
Jones has been a bit better but not really.
Cam J has been great, but us fans would’ve taken Brandon Clarke and that would still be ok.
Passing on Halliburton was also a mistake.
Considering all these blunders, I just thank god we’re still fielding a competitive team. We could easily be the Kings right now.
Tatum forever <3Split T wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:14 pmThere was a lot of Jackson and Bender fans on this board. I don’t really remember very many Murray fans. I know this board would not have drafted ChrissSuperbone wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:05 pmWe would have picked Booker as well.MightyMoog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:21 amI honestly think the fans would’ve done better than Ryan McDonough.
Josh Jackson over Fox,
Bender over Jamal Murray
Trading Bogie for Chriss
Ayton over Luka
Basically he got lucky once with Booker.
Jones has been a bit better but not really.
Cam J has been great, but us fans would’ve taken Brandon Clarke and that would still be ok.
Passing on Halliburton was also a mistake.
Considering all these blunders, I just thank god we’re still fielding a competitive team. We could easily be the Kings right now.