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Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:35 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:38 pm
How long before Shamet is re-routed to Detroit? :P
Who cares? :D

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:42 pm
by Furlanfufi
Vladimir_Taltos wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:35 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:38 pm
How long before Shamet is re-routed to Detroit? :P
Who cares? :D
Monty's daughter?

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:43 pm
by iLLmatic
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:20 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:06 pm
There is definitely risk here for the Suns. Beal is owed an ungodly amount of money. There is no guarantee that the Beal-Booker backcourt can even work. And Frank Vogel looks like an odd fit with this super team.

HOWEVER

1. We're finally done with Chris Paul.
2. Kyrie isn't coming here.
3. Shamet is gone.

Congratulations to the Wizards for making the worst trade in NBA history.
Beal had all of the leverage. You can't call it the worst trade in NBA history when he had a no-trade clause and could dictate all of the terms of the deal.
Not really.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:46 pm
by MightyMoog
Ayton is a goner.

To Dallas for THJ, Josh Green, Javale and the 10th pick? One can dream.

To Charlotte for Hayward, Mark Williams and their late 1st round pick?

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:47 pm
by SunsRIt
Wow. Crazy.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:55 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Crazy idea...put this elsewhere not expect this...seems appropriate here...

a. Wiz negotiate a buyout w/Chris, he retires.
b. Suns hire Chris as a bench coach for this season, works on his health for the season.
c. Coming season, Chris unretires and joins as the second unit PG.

Just an idea...
VT

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:56 pm
by JeremyG
Wally_West wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:07 pm



After watching this, I’m convinced Ayton will be moved.
He's wrong. They can easily stay under the second apron this season.

Durant: 47,649,433
Beal: 46,741,590
Booker: 36,016,200
Ayton: 32,459,438
Payne (waive before June 29): 2,000,000
7 vet min. players: 12,600,000
4 rookie min. players: 4,000,000

=15 players for $181,466,661

Second apron will be about $182M.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:07 pm
by TOO
iLLmatic wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:43 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:20 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:06 pm
There is definitely risk here for the Suns. Beal is owed an ungodly amount of money. There is no guarantee that the Beal-Booker backcourt can even work. And Frank Vogel looks like an odd fit with this super team.

HOWEVER

1. We're finally done with Chris Paul.
2. Kyrie isn't coming here.
3. Shamet is gone.

Congratulations to the Wizards for making the worst trade in NBA history.
Beal had all of the leverage. You can't call it the worst trade in NBA history when he had a no-trade clause and could dictate all of the terms of the deal.
Not really.
He did though. He could pick whatever he wanted or veto otherwise. He might as well have been a free agent.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
by TOO
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:11 pm
by ShelC
Another potential positive to the trade is now KD won't have to be KD all year long. He's 35, he can ease up a bit, load manage or let Beal and Book cook for the majority of the game and then get going in the 4th. He won't be the 3rd option, but doesn't need to carry a team either (barring injuries of course). If we're smart, we'll manage everyone's minutes and rest accordingly; this could also be a positive with Vogel, who may be more inclined to rest guys than Monty seemed to be.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:14 pm
by Uncle_Gene
SunsSince92 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:39 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:38 pm
How long before Shamet is re-routed to Detroit? :P
Already booking his flight!
LOL !

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:28 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Regardless of the circumstances, it's easily one of the worst trades ever from a value perspective. There's not a chance in hell a GM like Ainge or Riley makes this deal.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.
Stop me when I'm lying lol.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
by JeremyG
Miami Herald reporter with a different story:





Putting all the pieces together...it was Josh Bartelstein convincing his dad (Mark) that Beal only wanted Phoenix. :lol:

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:32 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.
Stop me when I'm lying lol.
I don't believe the idea that Beal would only go to Phoenix.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:32 pm
by Wally_West


Interesting

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:33 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:33 pm
by TOO
Reads like sour grapes to me.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:35 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:32 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.
Stop me when I'm lying lol.
I don't believe the idea that Beal would only go to Phoenix.
Maybe, maybe not, but I'd be willing to bet Ishbia has more pull than JJ. There's also a chance Washington just preferred the cap room to whatever Miami was offering.