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Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:22 pm
by JeremyG
I finally figured out what this reminds me of: Chucky Brown, Mark Bryant, Robert Horry, and Sam Cassell. Only worse. And that was with a trade demand.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:22 pm
by Shabazz
If you put any stock into this guy:


Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:23 pm
by TOO
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:21 pm
My gut is that I don't think we have a better shot at winning the title this season than we did 2 hours ago and I think our chances might be worse.
Suns got deeper and a C who will buy in, I disagree. The Suns C rotation is fine and they can now just throw shooter after shooter at you. KD/Book/Beal/Gordon/Allen/Shuta is A LOT of perimeter firepower.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:24 pm
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:22 pm
If you put any stock into this guy:

I would be shocked, as I’ve said before, if Grayson Allen ever plays a single game for a James Jones led team.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:25 pm
by Split T
This pretty much confirms to me that either Ayton was done with Phoenix or we were just done with him. It’s not great value, but probably just a move we needed to do. We’ll cross our fingers Nurkic stays healthy and maybe 1 of these other guys provides something.

I really don’t like Grayson Allen.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:25 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:23 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:21 pm
My gut is that I don't think we have a better shot at winning the title this season than we did 2 hours ago and I think our chances might be worse.
Suns got deeper and a C who will buy in, I disagree. The Suns C rotation is fine and they can now just throw shooter after shooter at you. KD/Book/Beal/Gordon/Allen/Shuta is A LOT of perimeter firepower.
We got that vaunted Blazers center rotation we've always wanted!

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:26 pm
by Split T
Ayton was never our championship or bust piece though. It’s not up to him. It’ll be up to Book/KD/Beal

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:27 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:24 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:22 pm
If you put any stock into this guy:

I would be shocked, as I’ve said before, if Grayson Allen ever plays a single game for a James Jones led team.
If so, what are we getting for him? He's probably the most dependable player we got in the trade.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:28 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:26 pm
Ayton was never our championship or bust piece though. It’s not up to him. It’ll be up to Book/KD/Beal
It could have been up to him but he didn't seem to have the heart or drive for it.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:29 pm
by Split T
Allen is like a slightly better Shamet…he’s somewhat useful but not sure he has a place with EG here. If we can package Allen/Johnson for someone else…that would be great. Would fix the roster crunch too…assuming we waive Ish

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:30 pm
by Drewsprocket
I think us fans were more attached to the potential Ayton brings from one game to the next than his teammates and Suns staff were. I don’t find fault in the trade in spite my disappointment. Nurk will be better than most of what you wrist cutters expect. Eubanks, Little I think will play well off the bench.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:33 pm
by Split T


CJ liked it…but probably just standing up for his former teammates

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:34 pm
by Drewsprocket
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:25 pm
This pretty much confirms to me that either Ayton was done with Phoenix or we were just done with him. It’s not great value, but probably just a move we needed to do. We’ll cross our fingers Nurkic stays healthy and maybe 1 of these other guys provides something.

I really don’t like Grayson Allen.
I liked the idea to trade him to Utah where he fits.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:38 pm
by Split T

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:40 pm
by ShelC
OG-lite

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:41 pm
by Drewsprocket
He’s no slouch.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:45 pm
by Shabazz
Giannis-Dame is about as great of a 1-2 punch as you could put together.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:48 pm
by ShelC
Little is also locked in at $6-7mil/year thru 26-27, which will help considering Okogie, KBD and Yuta are all on 1 yr deals. He may end up the 5th starter/core piece on a cheap deal. And just 23 with 4 years in the league already.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:49 pm
by Drewsprocket
I live in Portland so I will still have to watch plenty of Ayton. He’ll probably play well with the Blazers and their line. It wasn’t gonna happen here for him.

Re: TRADE: Ayton/Camara for Nurkic/Allen/Little/Johnson

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:49 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:26 pm
Ayton was never our championship or bust piece though. It’s not up to him. It’ll be up to Book/KD/Beal
That’s not what y’all were saying two months ago.