The Kevin Durant Problem

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TOO wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:54 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:45 pm
Man, KD let his guard down here. Never seen him like this before. Makes you appreciate him more.

It does?
Well, not to the cold hearted. :P
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Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:45 pm
Man, KD let his guard down here. Never seen him like this before. Makes you appreciate him more.

nah.

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No

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Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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Predictably, KD is chirping back at these guys:


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He's like a 14 yr old on social media. Great talent but can't wait til he's gone.

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ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:45 am
He's like a 14 yr old on social media. Great talent but can't wait til he's gone.
His arrival has brought nothing but pain and disappointment.

I hope Mat Ishbia learns to SLOW DOWN and really think through his actions and get his basketball people's honest opinions before acting. Giving up the farm (we sure didn't get happy on it) for KD was one thing but blowing through the 2nd Apron with a redundant piece and hamstringing our near future while losing the one leader on the team is quite another.
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Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:39 am
Predictably, KD is chirping back at these guys:

Chill on the court, giant baby off the court. Seems about right, backwards priorities.
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Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:33 am
ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:45 am
He's like a 14 yr old on social media. Great talent but can't wait til he's gone.
His arrival has brought nothing but pain and disappointment.

I hope Mat Ishbia learns to SLOW DOWN and really think through his actions and get his basketball people's honest opinions let his basketball people make the basketball decisions before acting.
FIFY.
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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:56 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:33 am
ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:45 am
He's like a 14 yr old on social media. Great talent but can't wait til he's gone.
His arrival has brought nothing but pain and disappointment.

I hope Mat Ishbia learns to SLOW DOWN and really think through his actions and get his basketball people's honest opinions let his basketball people make the basketball decisions before acting.
FIFY.
I'm not sure he has that in him. Being a 15th man in college along with his ego, probably has him wanting to be hands on. Pretty sure Sarver was as well with even less knowledge. He should be the tie-breaker at most. He has already proven his follies.
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I remember when he bought the team people saying he was a basketball mind because he used to play.

So did Isiah Thomas. And Michael Jordan. And Magic Johnson. Anybody want to put one of those guys in charge of the franchise?
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People crap on James Jones, but Jones showed great restraint by NOT biting on the KD deal before Ishbia showed up. Jones knew that the price was too high, that we were giving up too much for a questionable short-term reward. Ishbia buys the team and immediately overrules him, setting us on the crash course we are now on. I hope we don't forget that Jones didn't want to do this, didn't want to take us here.

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People don't remember that Jones didn't do anything at all. From the finals run to the year after and year after he didn't make any moves of any relevance despite us desperately needing some high end bench players except for trade for fucking Torrey Craig every year.

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Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:22 am
I remember when he bought the team people saying he was a basketball mind because he used to play.

So did Isiah Thomas. And Michael Jordan. And Magic Johnson. Anybody want to put one of those guys in charge of the franchise?
Yep, just because you played at any level including GOAT level, doesn't mean you know how to put a winning basketball team together.
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Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:02 pm
People don't remember that Jones didn't do anything at all. From the finals run to the year after and year after he didn't make any moves of any relevance despite us desperately needing some high end bench players except for trade for fucking Torrey Craig every year.
This was a common complaint but what moves could have been made? Every year fans wanted Thaddeus Young or Keldon Johnson and it would've cost us a lot more than they were worth. I also think his hands were tied due to the pending sale of the team.

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ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:02 pm
People don't remember that Jones didn't do anything at all. From the finals run to the year after and year after he didn't make any moves of any relevance despite us desperately needing some high end bench players except for trade for fucking Torrey Craig every year.
This was a common complaint but what moves could have been made? Every year fans wanted Thaddeus Young or Keldon Johnson and it would've cost us a lot more than they were worth. I also think his hands were tied due to the pending sale of the team.
It's not our job to figure out how to make the moves happen. Every other team was finding creative means to add around the edges except Phoenix. It's literally his job and it's performance based.

We'll never know if Sarver hamstrung that but Jones publicly said he didn't anyway.

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specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:53 pm
ShelC wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:38 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:02 pm
People don't remember that Jones didn't do anything at all. From the finals run to the year after and year after he didn't make any moves of any relevance despite us desperately needing some high end bench players except for trade for fucking Torrey Craig every year.
This was a common complaint but what moves could have been made? Every year fans wanted Thaddeus Young or Keldon Johnson and it would've cost us a lot more than they were worth. I also think his hands were tied due to the pending sale of the team.
It's not our job to figure out how to make the moves happen. Every other team was finding creative means to add around the edges except Phoenix. It's literally his job and it's performance based.

We'll never know if Sarver hamstrung that but Jones publicly said he didn't anyway.
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specialsauce wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:02 pm
People don't remember that Jones didn't do anything at all. From the finals run to the year after and year after he didn't make any moves of any relevance despite us desperately needing some high end bench players except for trade for fucking Torrey Craig every year.
Didn’t do anything? Umm, JJ made a big boy move and traded a 1st for Landry Shamet. 😤😤😤😤




Fun fact: Herb Jones and Aaron Wiggins were both taken after that pick. Both much better than Shamet was. Day’Ron Sharpe who the nets took with the pick, would also be a big help right now.

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Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:22 am
I remember when he bought the team people saying he was a basketball mind because he used to play.

So did Isiah Thomas. And Michael Jordan. And Magic Johnson. Anybody want to put one of those guys in charge of the franchise?
This isn't fair. Hate Ishbia all you want, but he is a proven businessman. The basketball mind statement was made to separate him from other NBA owners/businessmen, who by and large did not play nor understand the game of basketball. I guess you'd rather go back to the Sarver days.

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Carno wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:35 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:22 am
I remember when he bought the team people saying he was a basketball mind because he used to play.

So did Isiah Thomas. And Michael Jordan. And Magic Johnson. Anybody want to put one of those guys in charge of the franchise?
This isn't fair. Hate Ishbia all you want, but he is a proven businessman. The basketball mind statement was made to separate him from other NBA owners/businessmen, who by and large did not play nor understand the game of basketball. I guess you'd rather go back to the Sarver days.
Being critical of Ish doesn’t mean approving of Sarver. Where do you get that nonsense?
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