Game Day: Suns (30-34) @ Grizzlies (40-24), Mon 3/10/25

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Just imagine if Dunn could have been on Morant most of the game...

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Tyus is so fucking useless. 9 seconds left and this fuck wastes 5 seconds to go pass half court, then dumps to Durant by the logo. Brilliantly drawn up by Bud, whose probably drunk off his ass.

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wpmiller42 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:48 pm
Just imagine if Dunn could have been on Morant most of the game...
He would have fouled out in 5 minutes. The refs called a foul every single time Morant drove into someone and threw it up.
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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:49 pm
Meanwhile, Gillespie was a +5, only behind Booker (+7) and Plumlee (+6).
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:05 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:37 pm
Anybody who thinks you can build a championship team with Booker as the ceterpiece is way off base.

As your third-best player, yes, as your second-best with a lot of breaks along the way, maybe.

As your best player? No chance.
Nobody has ever said you could.
Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
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I don't think Memphis scored in Dunn's 28 seconds of gametime. Well, he's a -2 so maybe one basket.
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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:05 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:37 pm
Anybody who thinks you can build a championship team with Booker as the ceterpiece is way off base.

As your third-best player, yes, as your second-best with a lot of breaks along the way, maybe.

As your best player? No chance.
Nobody has ever said you could.
Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
Why not?
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Bud has to be trolling at this point. There's just no way he keeps coaching like this on purpose.

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Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:54 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:05 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:37 pm
Anybody who thinks you can build a championship team with Booker as the ceterpiece is way off base.

As your third-best player, yes, as your second-best with a lot of breaks along the way, maybe.

As your best player? No chance.
Nobody has ever said you could.
Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
Why not?
If we need to pay one or two players who are better than him, the math doesn't work.
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ShelC wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 pm
Bud has to be trolling at this point. There's just no way he keeps coaching like this on purpose.
Hmm. He hates coaching this team so much that he wants to get fired?
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
I don't think Memphis scored in Dunn's 28 seconds of gametime. Well, he's a -2 so maybe one basket.
Spencer made two free throws in the last minute of the 4th quarter after Dunn entered the game.

Oddly enough, Dunn antered the game betweeen two free throws made by Memphis in the first half and came out of the game in between two free throws in the second half. So just how are those figured into the =/- stats? Is it-1 for each or -2 for the 1st half and 0 for the second half? It would seem to be more fair to count the points against the players on the court when the foul was committed rather than the ones in the game when the free throws were shot.
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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:54 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:05 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:37 pm
Anybody who thinks you can build a championship team with Booker as the ceterpiece is way off base.

As your third-best player, yes, as your second-best with a lot of breaks along the way, maybe.

As your best player? No chance.
Nobody has ever said you could.
Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
Why not?
If we need to pay one or two players who are better than him, the math doesn't work.
There's never been a championship team where the #2 guy was paid a commensurate salary?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.

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The Bobster wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:09 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
I don't think Memphis scored in Dunn's 28 seconds of gametime. Well, he's a -2 so maybe one basket.
Spencer made two free throws in the last minute of the 4th quarter after Dunn entered the game.

Oddly enough, Dunn antered the game betweeen two free throws made by Memphis in the first half and came out of the game in between two free throws in the second half. So just how are those figured into the =/- stats? Is it-1 for each or -2 for the 1st half and 0 for the second half? It would seem to be more fair to count the points against the players on the court when the foul was committed rather than the ones in the game when the free throws were shot.
That is an interesting question. Much more interesting than the scripted outcome of this game, that is for sure!
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It’s about roster construction with Book. If you are gonna surround him with players who are shorter than him, who aren’t athletic and are horrible defenders, then add trash centers to that group, LIKE THE TEAM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW! …then yeah, you ain’t going anywhere. Also outside of a like 2-3 guys, no one is winning with a team construction like that. Tyus, Grayson, Royce didn’t do shit defensively but watch the ball and stand there most of the night and at all times we are playing 2 of them, sometimes all of them at the same time. YOU CANT WIN LIKE THAT.

Book, Nick, Colin, Ryan and Oso can stay. I’d like too to keep Bol too but I’m not too attached. Outside of that, everyone needs to go.

I’m on the record with wanting to keep KD but I recognize the reality of the situation.

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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:15 pm
It’s about roster construction with Book. If you are gonna surround him with players who are shorter than him, who aren’t athletic and are horrible defenders, then add trash centers to that group, LIKE THE TEAM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW! …then yeah, you ain’t going anywhere. Also outside of a like 2-3 guys, no one is winning with a team construction like that. Tyus, Grayson, Royce didn’t do shit defensively but watch the ball and stand there most of the night and at all times we are playing 2 of them, sometimes all of them at the same time. YOU CANT WIN LIKE THAT.

Book, Nick, Colin, Ryan and Oso can stay. I’d like too to keep Bol too but I’m not too attached. Outside of that, everyone needs to go.

I’m on the record with wanting to keep KD but I recognize the reality of the situation.
I think the reality of the situation is if you do a tear down, you trade Booker as well. I think they'll probably kid themselving to thinking they can trade Durrant for some parts and still contend next year and that's just not realistic. They'll have big holes at center, big forward and point guard, and really only two players who should be playing 30 minutes a night and they play the same position (Booker & Beal). If they get a couple of players who they can plug into the rotation and a couple of draft choices that'd probably be a win, but their defense is one of the worst in the league and needs a complete overhaul. And running Beal, Booker, and Allen out there every night isn't going to help.
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Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:09 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:54 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:05 pm


Nobody has ever said you could.
Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
Why not?
If we need to pay one or two players who are better than him, the math doesn't work.
There's never been a championship team where the #2 guy was paid a commensurate salary?
No team has won a championship with more than one player earning the supermax since the supermax was invented.
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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:15 pm
It’s about roster construction with Book. If you are gonna surround him with players who are shorter than him, who aren’t athletic and are horrible defenders, then add trash centers to that group, LIKE THE TEAM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW! …then yeah, you ain’t going anywhere. Also outside of a like 2-3 guys, no one is winning with a team construction like that. Tyus, Grayson, Royce didn’t do shit defensively but watch the ball and stand there most of the night and at all times we are playing 2 of them, sometimes all of them at the same time. YOU CANT WIN LIKE THAT.

Book, Nick, Colin, Ryan and Oso can stay. I’d like too to keep Bol too but I’m not too attached. Outside of that, everyone needs to go.

I’m on the record with wanting to keep KD but I recognize the reality of the situation.
Getting off of Beal is most important and would likely result in keeping KD.

It's crazy that they'll probably have to trade KD because they can't move Beal, but I'm still holding out hope he's willing to accept a trade this summer.
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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:35 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:09 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:54 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:52 pm


Then we can't pay him $70 million per season on a new extension.
Why not?
If we need to pay one or two players who are better than him, the math doesn't work.
There's never been a championship team where the #2 guy was paid a commensurate salary?
No team has won a championship with more than one player earning the supermax since the supermax was invented.
I'll take your word for it.
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This team blows so much. Their effort and intelligence on D is so horrid that I can hardly watch it. They just constantly let the opponent have the easiest shots in basketball: 3s and layups. They just have no idea what they are doing out there defensively. And then they barely seem to give a shit until they have a little sissy trash talk session that supposedly lights a fire under them for a few minutes. You can really feel the lack of effort.

Please, please, this offseason rebuild our team around defense. I am so tired of having a shitty defense. I would be okay with bad offense if we could just get stops and rebounds. Get some size, defense, rebounding, energy, hustle.

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