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I wish we knew the severity of the victim's injuries. You'd think the media would have uncovered something about that by now.

carey wrote:I'm really disappointed in KTAR for the Lon Babby interview. It was during Bickley & Marotta.

-Is there anything you can say?
-I'd rather not comment and leave it at that.
-Ok.

Great journalism there guys.

The Morris twins are Blabby's trained seals. And Blabby is P.T. Barnum, thinking Suns fans are a bunch of gullible rubes.

Bickley is a tool. His voice is a cross between Cartman from South Park and a guy sucking helium from a tank. And he's been writing a variation of the same three columns for the Repulsive the last five years ...

I'm still seeing absolutely zero coverage of this on the major sites like ESPN or Yahoo NBA. Maybe they want to stay away from legal / police stuff unless it's more certain? A lot of people are posting snarky messages about the Morrii but I'm trying not to jump to conclusions until we hear more.

I am kind of in the same boat. Getting in a short fight where a guy goes to the hospital because he is bleeding a bit is very different than beating a guy silly. Either way, there needs to be some repercussions. And I am happy to get rid of both if this is true.

Yea...I think people need to chill on this. I don't live in AZ, So if I didn't frequent this board I would not even know the incident existed. ESPN hasn't picked it up and they live on controversy. Roto mentioned it briefly. That tells me that its probably being overblown or what we know is only a small part of the story. The guy could of came at Marcus he could of thrown a punch and the guy could of went to the hospital. They could still say he "beat him down".

The thing about being "hospitalized" is, if you get hit once, you'll probably get a badly bloody nose and a black eye at the minimum. That's just how it is. Being sent to the ER or hospital as a precaution is not that unusual. I'd be more upset if I heard he had broken bones, had been knocked out, or other more significant damage. Either way, a pro athlete shouldn't be getting into fights and punching people, obviously, and it's not okay if Marcus did so. The other thing I haven't heard yet is, did Marcus himself get hit? Was he injured? Again, I just don't feel like I have enough information to know what to think of it yet.

The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

That's a really good point. If it wasn't bad, the Suns would be all over it saying how it wasn't bad. The writing on the wall. Hopefully the silence is because they are being shopped and they don't want to ruin it.

Indy wrote:

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

That's a really good point. If it wasn't bad, the Suns would be all over it saying how it wasn't bad. The writing on the wall. Hopefully the silence is because they are being shopped and they don't want to ruin it.

Thats not really true. The suns are probabaly just cooperating with police while they gather all the info. It might be really bad or it might not. Like Mori said, I don't understand how anyone could draw conclusions from what we know which is basically there was some sort of altercation.

There was something very similar involving the Pouncey Twins (I'm a huge Dolphins fan which has Mike Pouncey on it) that happened outiside a club and it turned out to be nothing more then basically a money grab, infact Mike had nothing to do with it at all and the Dolphins were silent on the whole thing until they gathered all the facts. So I don't like to jump to conclusions on issues like this....

Sunsfan4life wrote:

Indy wrote:

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

That's a really good point. If it wasn't bad, the Suns would be all over it saying how it wasn't bad. The writing on the wall. Hopefully the silence is because they are being shopped and they don't want to ruin it.

Thats not really true. The suns are probabaly just cooperating with police while they gather all the info. It might be really bad or it might not. Like Mori said, I don't understand how anyone could draw conclusions from what we know which is basically there was some sort of altercation.

There was something very similar involving the Pouncey Twins (I'm a huge Dolphins fan which has Mike Pouncey on it) that happened outiside a club and it turned out to be nothing more then basically a money grab, infact Mike had nothing to do with it at all and the Dolphins were silent on the whole thing until they gathered all the facts. So I don't like to jump to conclusions on issues like this....

I think we can both agree, as fellow Dolphins fans, that the current Suns FO and the Dolphins FO go about handling the media very differently.

I am actually concerned that there is almost zero local reporting on it, more so than if it was reported, and the Suns came out and said, we are not going to comment on active investigations, and we, along with the Morri, are cooperating fully.

Indy wrote:I am kind of in the same boat. Getting in a short fight where a guy goes to the hospital because he is bleeding a bit is very different than beating a guy silly. Either way, there needs to be some repercussions. And I am happy to get rid of both if this is true.

The problem is now they're tougher to get value for, if true. At least as a package deal.

Mori Chu wrote:The thing about being "hospitalized" is, if you get hit once, you'll probably get a badly bloody nose and a black eye at the minimum. That's just how it is. Being sent to the ER or hospital as a precaution is not that unusual. I'd be more upset if I heard he had broken bones, had been knocked out, or other more significant damage. Either way, a pro athlete shouldn't be getting into fights and punching people, obviously, and it's not okay if Marcus did so. The other thing I haven't heard yet is, did Marcus himself get hit? Was he injured? Again, I just don't feel like I have enough information to know what to think of it yet.

He played Wednesday night after the alleged altercation. Nothing visible.

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

Which is the smart move if they want any chance of getting good value for them in a trade.

Superbone wrote:

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

Which is the smart move if they want any chance of getting good value for them in a trade.

Only if something bad happened.

I'm kind of disappointed in most of the messages in this thread. Three particular sentiments, being made by multiple people here, are sticking in my craw:

1) There are rumors, therefore the Morrii must have definitely "done it", i.e., done something wrong, done what they are accused of doing, broken the law, etc.

2) The fact that the Suns haven't yet said much about the situation implies guilt on the part of the Morrii.

3) The Suns have been trying to trade the Morrii; and even if they hadn't, they certainly should now in light of this situation.

I just don't see how any of the three above points can be made right now with any certainty. I'm also bummed out that most folks here don't seem willing to give our players or our team any benefit of the doubt. No charges have been filed, and nobody has been convicted of or even accused of any crime. How would any of you react if a rumor started about you doing something wrong, and everybody jumped on it and made sweeping judgments about you before the facts were nailed down?

I think there is a lot of confirmation bias going on in this thread. People who tend to believe every rumor and bit of gossip are jumping all over this story. And people who don't like the Morrii are using this as a reason to rag on them. Now there very well may be some truth to the story, and we'll probably find out more in the coming days. But I'm surprised that more folks aren't waiting to reserve their judgment until that time.

I guess my guilty until proven innocence stems from the examples they've demonstrated as of late. Constant technicals and chirping at the officials. Marcus blowing up more than I've seen any Suns player blow up towards his head coach, looking menacing and on the edge of assaulting Hornacek.

As the saying goes, where there's smoke, there's fire.

AmareIsGod wrote:I guess my guilty until proven innocence stems from the examples they've demonstrated as of late. Constant technicals and chirping at the officials. Marcus blowing up more than I've seen any Suns player blow up towards his head coach, looking menacing and on the edge of assaulting Hornacek.

As the saying goes, where there's smoke, there's fire.

Sorry dude i find this ridiculous. Comparing getting a technical for arguing with an official vs assult is a huge reach.

Indy wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:

Indy wrote:

carey wrote:The Suns are being very aggressive with the media from what I have heard. If you listen to that sham of an interview on KTAR or even go to BrightSide where the only thing is a article with a link to the original KPHO story with no commentary. King himself has limited his comments in the comment section to one word replies. Coro won't touch it. I'm pretty sure we can all put 2 & 2 together here.

That's a really good point. If it wasn't bad, the Suns would be all over it saying how it wasn't bad. The writing on the wall. Hopefully the silence is because they are being shopped and they don't want to ruin it.

Thats not really true. The suns are probabaly just cooperating with police while they gather all the info. It might be really bad or it might not. Like Mori said, I don't understand how anyone could draw conclusions from what we know which is basically there was some sort of altercation.

There was something very similar involving the Pouncey Twins (I'm a huge Dolphins fan which has Mike Pouncey on it) that happened outiside a club and it turned out to be nothing more then basically a money grab, infact Mike had nothing to do with it at all and the Dolphins were silent on the whole thing until they gathered all the facts. So I don't like to jump to conclusions on issues like this....

I think we can both agree, as fellow Dolphins fans, that the current Suns FO and the Dolphins FO go about handling the media very differently.

I am actually concerned that there is almost zero local reporting on it, more so than if it was reported, and the Suns came out and said, we are not going to comment on active investigations, and we, along with the Morri, are cooperating fully.

First off, great to have a fellow fin fan on the board. Yes they are very secretive bout that stuff but i think the morri prob get more benefit of the doubt then the pouncys who have been involved in other dumb stuff. Off topic bit u think the release mike wallace after the crap he pulled?

I'm not saying they are guilty or innocent but the twins have been acting pretty surly this season. You could kinda wave off the technicals and say they don't matter but the fact that they seem unable to control themselves is pretty telling. Going after the refs on plays where they actual get the call is mind boggling. Throw in that tirade directed at Coach and it becomes a lot harder to give them the benefit of the doubt.

The silence from the Suns doesn't imply guilt per se but they are a business and they will do whatever is best for them. We have three different sources so far about this(Sunsaholic, Mr. Orange and Kerrsed). I don't know anything about Sunsaholic but the other two aren't just random people. Something definitely went down and if the twins weren't at fault you would think they would have been smart enough to involve the police to cover themselves. The way things are shaping up it is hard not to assume they are in the wrong.

As for whether we should trade them I'll leave that up to McD. They could easily just push this under the rug like PJ's dui and continue on with business as usual. It really depends on how they are affecting the locker room and the young guys. Either way you don't trade them for scraps. Kieff is a good player and we would have to get something good back.

Mori Chu wrote:I'm kind of disappointed in most of the messages in this thread. Three particular sentiments, being made by multiple people here, are sticking in my craw:

1) There are rumors, therefore the Morrii must have definitely "done it", i.e., done something wrong, done what they are accused of doing, broken the law, etc.

2) The fact that the Suns haven't yet said much about the situation implies guilt on the part of the Morrii.

3) The Suns have been trying to trade the Morrii; and even if they hadn't, they certainly should now in light of this situation.

I just don't see how any of the three above points can be made right now with any certainty. I'm also bummed out that most folks here don't seem willing to give our players or our team any benefit of the doubt. No charges have been filed, and nobody has been convicted of or even accused of any crime. How would any of you react if a rumor started about you doing something wrong, and everybody jumped on it and made sweeping judgments about you before the facts were nailed down?

I think there is a lot of confirmation bias going on in this thread. People who tend to believe every rumor and bit of gossip are jumping all over this story. And people who don't like the Morrii are using this as a reason to rag on them. Now there very well may be some truth to the story, and we'll probably find out more in the coming days. But I'm surprised that more folks aren't waiting to reserve their judgment until that time.

This is a message board. We speculate... a lot. Actually, I think we speculate more here than report on what actually happened. This is nothing more than that. We are trying to guess what is going to happen in the future based on a small amount of information we have now. It is no different than our trade guesses, and the results of games. The only reason it is different is because we are guessing on what already happened, but don't know yet.