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Mori Chu wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:I came to the realization last night that I just don't LIKE Archie. Its not so much about his game (although there are certainly problems there) its what I have seen of him as a person. He and Booker seem to be polar opposites.

He seems to have a bad attitude. Cocky, full of himself, doesn't always listen to the coach. Love his talent but don't think we'll keep him for that reason.

So he is like 90% of the players in the league?

Indy wrote:

Mori Chu wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:I came to the realization last night that I just don't LIKE Archie. Its not so much about his game (although there are certainly problems there) its what I have seen of him as a person. He and Booker seem to be polar opposites.

He seems to have a bad attitude. Cocky, full of himself, doesn't always listen to the coach. Love his talent but don't think we'll keep him for that reason.

So he is like 90% of the players in the league?

BTW, I really didn't see the taunting on that play. He just made the play and then looked and realized it was Porzingis. He then looked AWAY from Porzingis and said something. Should have been an "and1" because Porz clearly got all arm.

Seems like a lame call.

JCSunsfan wrote:

Indy wrote:

Mori Chu wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:I came to the realization last night that I just don't LIKE Archie. Its not so much about his game (although there are certainly problems there) its what I have seen of him as a person. He and Booker seem to be polar opposites.

He seems to have a bad attitude. Cocky, full of himself, doesn't always listen to the coach. Love his talent but don't think we'll keep him for that reason.

So he is like 90% of the players in the league?

BTW, I really didn't see the taunting on that play. He just made the play and then looked and realized it was Porzingis. He then looked AWAY from Porzingis and said something.

Seems like a lame call.

If the same thing happened but the players were switched, nothing would have been called. Expect a foul on Archie.

JCSunsfan wrote:

LazarusLong wrote:The race (?) is to see if this team sets a franchise record in futility (excluding the inaugural season).
That would be 24 wins or less.

If that happens, it means the Suns have recorded two of their three worst seasons in franchise history within the past four years.

If that isn't a slap in the face and a kick in groin to Sarver, he has no vision, no gumption, no pride.

OK. Are we tanking or not? Have we not heard for years that the worst place we could possibly be is competing for the final playoff spot year after year? If we are going to tank, our record has to be really bad by definition. You can't have tanking and winning games at the same time.

I am ready to full on tank. I want a very high draft pick in the upcoming draft. If ever we were due for the number one pick, it is now. I at least want a real shot at it.

I don't know if it was a taunt or not but if he did, it was unwarranted when down by 20.

Superbone wrote:I don't know if it was a taunt or not but if he did, it was unwarranted when down by 20.

Yes it would be. But just letting out a bit of emotion after an aggressive play and a frustrating game can be expected. There is a difference between that and taunting. I could not tell which it was.

It didn't seem to be directed at any Knicks player in particular. If you want to call taunting on that, great, but you're going to have to call 20 taunting calls every game then.

The Bobster wrote:It didn't seem to be directed at any Knicks player in particular. If you want to call taunting on that, great, but you're going to have to call 20 taunting calls every game then.

Yep - especially when it's a poster dunk like that. Calling taunting on that is nothing but homers trying to stick it to him for posterizing the new New York golden boy (Porzingis).

It was a bad call. It happens. And in cases like this, it doesn't make much difference.

I don't think it was a taunting tech. After the dunk he was yelling right at the ref because he thought it was a foul. Classic #FOE. Nothing quite like making a spectacular play and then yelling at the ref just for fun.

I didn't really even think he was yelling at the ref. He just threw the ball down on a 7 footer for God sakes. Isn't the kid allowed to display a little emotion?

Apparently not.

Cap wrote:

Indy wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

Cap wrote:Brain and brain, what is brain?!

Sadly, I am a big enough nerd to know that reference.

I'm sure there are at least four or five of us here that do.

We're not just nerds. We're old nerds.

I'm watching Spock's Brain today.

Superbone wrote:

Cap wrote:

Indy wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

Cap wrote:Brain and brain, what is brain?!

Sadly, I am a big enough nerd to know that reference.

I'm sure there are at least four or five of us here that do.

We're not just nerds. We're old nerds.

I'm watching Spock's Brain today.

Cleanse your palate afterwards with a good one like "Space Seed" for God's sake!

I remember Dikembe wagging his finger at people (and later, at the crowd) after a big block. How is that okay but Archie giving a grunt after a dunk isn't? He even turned away from the opponent specifically so that he would not be getting in the guy's face and taunting him. Seemed like a bogus tech to me. No way that, say, Kobe would get that T after a dunk this year. (If he could even still jump that high.)

I hit this a few times ever day just for good measure.

http://www.tankathon.com
According to this we won't pick any lower than the 6th pick and most likely 5th at this point.

The Bobster wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Cap wrote:

Indy wrote:

The Bobster wrote:
Sadly, I am a big enough nerd to know that reference.

I'm sure there are at least four or five of us here that do.

We're not just nerds. We're old nerds.

I'm watching Spock's Brain today.

Cleanse your palate afterwards with a good one like "Space Seed" for God's sake!

Spock's Brain is a good one... when combined with the appropriate mind-altering substances.

The Bobster wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Cap wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

Cap wrote:Brain and brain, what is brain?!

Sadly, I am a big enough nerd to know that reference.

We're not just nerds. We're old nerds.

I'm watching Spock's Brain today.

Cleanse your palate afterwards with a good one like "Space Seed" for God's sake!

It's funny. I barely recall the episode. Maybe I put it out of my memory. I have the beautiful Blu Ray collection and had started watching from the beginning with my kids. They're both off to college now so maybe I'll continue where I left off. I think I was on the classic Mirror, Mirror episode. So that would be a good one to follow Spock's Brain with.

Spocks Brain is certainly not the worst TOS episode. It's actually interesting about how happy Spock is, but Kirk won't let him be. The whole remote control thing is pretty awful, though.