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Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:36 pm
by Indy
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:22 pm
He's saying it is very unlikely we end up with KD and Ayton during the season.
Very unlikely is being generous. I'm saying it'll never happen.
I think there is a less than 15% chance Ayton is on this team to start the season. And even less if KD is on the team at the start of the season. I wouldn't go as far as impossible, but both happening is <5%.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:42 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:22 pm
He's saying it is very unlikely we end up with KD and Ayton during the season.
Very unlikely is being generous. I'm saying it'll never happen.
But you had both KD & Mikal and Ayton & Mikal as options on your list, that's why I'm confused.
KD & Mikal would mean the Nets accepted Johnson and filler, our picks, plus maybe a protected pick from Indiana.
KD & Ayton would mean the Nets accepted Bridges, Johnson, filler, and our picks.
The second option sounds like a better deal for the Nets and thus more likely to happen than keeping Mikal.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:46 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:42 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:22 pm
He's saying it is very unlikely we end up with KD and Ayton during the season.
Very unlikely is being generous. I'm saying it'll never happen.
But you had both KD & Mikal and Ayton & Mikal as options on your list, that's why I'm confused.
Ayton is gone. I only put that third option there as a reference for where I'd prefer the option of more or less running back the same team.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:48 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:46 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:42 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:22 pm
He's saying it is very unlikely we end up with KD and Ayton during the season.
Very unlikely is being generous. I'm saying it'll never happen.
But you had both KD & Mikal and Ayton & Mikal as options on your list, that's why I'm confused.
Ayton is gone. I only put that third option there as a reference for where I'd prefer the option of more or less running back the same team.
Okay, that makes more sense.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
by Superbone
More ammo for you Jeremy:
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:53 pm
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
It should be more ammo for all of us. He is a valuable piece to this team.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:59 pm
by Indy
we all agree he is a valuable piece. We just disagree on what the value is.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 pm
by Drewsprocket
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Aystan heads are gonna explode when he gets 20 and 12 next year and he avgs career highs in FTAs. But what they won’t notice is that he’ll likely never see the post season for years.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm
by TOO
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Fouls hurt and Ayton doesnt like contact, makes sense to me.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:14 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:59 pm
we all agree he is a valuable piece. We just agree on what the value is.
If money was unlimited he'd have been signed already.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Fouls hurt and Ayton doesnt like contact, makes sense to me.
Why in the world would you want to mark up that beautiful body?!
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
by JeremyG
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Aystan heads are gonna explode when he gets 20 and 12 next year and he avgs career highs in FTAs. But what they won’t notice is that he’ll likely never see the post season for years.
If he goes to Indiana, he'll be in the postseason this season.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:21 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Fouls hurt and Ayton doesnt like contact, makes sense to me.
Why in the world would you want to mark up that beautiful body?!
In the name of Dominayton. Obviously.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:22 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Aystan heads are gonna explode when he gets 20 and 12 next year and he avgs career highs in FTAs. But what they won’t notice is that he’ll likely never see the post season for years.
If he goes to Indiana, he'll be in the postseason this season.
Unless he's not.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:34 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:21 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Fouls hurt and Ayton doesnt like contact, makes sense to me.
Why in the world would you want to mark up that beautiful body?!
In the name of Dominayton. Obviously.
He already says he's doing that.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:38 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:34 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:21 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:13 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Fouls hurt and Ayton doesnt like contact, makes sense to me.
Why in the world would you want to mark up that beautiful body?!
In the name of Dominayton. Obviously.
He already says he's doing that.
Well then the Suns should probably give him a maximum contract.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:47 pm
by Shabazz
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Aystan heads are gonna explode when he gets 20 and 12 next year and he avgs career highs in FTAs. But what they won’t notice is that he’ll likely never see the post season for years.
If he goes to Indiana, he'll be in the postseason this season.
Almost zero chance.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:52 pm
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:47 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:10 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:00 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:55 pm
More ammo for you Jeremy:
And ranked 100th! in FTA per game...6"11"...and he ranked 100th! He isn't Barkley, he isn't Giannis...he's NOT a max player!
Aystan heads are gonna explode when he gets 20 and 12 next year and he avgs career highs in FTAs. But what they won’t notice is that he’ll likely never see the post season for years.
If he goes to Indiana, he'll be in the postseason this season.
Almost zero chance.
"Postseason" includes play-in tournament.
Re: Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:54 pm
by Indy
Yeah I don't see them jumping up 4 spots to just make the play in. And the playin isn't post-season, at least according to NBA stats. You have to get into the final 8 teams in your conference for it to count.