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Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:17 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:14 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:12 pm
I like Moore, but wish we had signed Bazemore instead. I like Galloway more as well.
I’m going to go with Jones’ judgment here. He’s been very solid when it comes to team building.
For all we know, we offered Bazemore the minimum but he just preferred Golden State.
Very possible. I like him too.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:23 pm
by djy2j
Wally_West wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:47 pm
Baynes to TOR?
Tampa technically

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:25 pm
by Danimal
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
Bummer.
So no sign and trade?

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:29 pm
by Split T
Danimal wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:25 pm
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:56 pm
Bummer.
So no sign and trade?
No. Our roster is essentially complete at this point. Just need to re-sign Saric

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:59 pm
by ShelC
I totally missed Robin Lopez signing with the Wizards. Not sure if it was posted but he's in DC now.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:00 pm
by Flagrant Fowl


I'd have preferred Boucher to Jones, but certainly not at that price.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:02 pm
by Split T
Think I saw year 2 isn’t guaranteed for Boucher. Toronto had no bigs though. Just Baynes and Boucher now

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:59 pm
by Danimal
We really seem to lack a creator or scoring burst off the bench. I think JJones spoke about the need for creators but not sure Moore counts as one. Looks like we will have to wait to see who we can pick up later. Maybe they run cam off them bench and run a lot of plays for him. Otherwise each night I’d be guessing where the majority of bench offense will come from.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:02 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:59 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:48 pm
Jones has 193 FG in his career, 128 of them are dunks, which would explain his 67% career FG%

"Hey Ayton - watch what this guy does when he gets the ball near the basket."
I hope he embarrasses Ayton in practice by dunking on him repeatedly. Or at least attempting to.
That's what I'm hoping for too. He looks like the kind of player Ayton has trouble with. If Jones is physical in practice, maybe it helps Ayton toughen up a bit.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:10 pm
by O_Gardino
I pretty happy with bringing in Moore. He's a legit NBA rotation player who was asked to do too much in NO. He will be very solid as a backup guard, and I think he is immediately the 3 guard in the rotation. Now Payne and Carter have to improve to get their minutes, which I think will ultimately be good for them. I think he's our starting PG when Paul is out, even if the other guards are playing well. He's just steady.

He's not the difference maker I hoped for, but I do like him better than most of the other guys left out there.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:12 pm
by Split T
Danimal wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:59 pm
We really seem to lack a creator or scoring burst off the bench. I think JJones spoke about the need for creators but not sure Moore counts as one. Looks like we will have to wait to see who we can pick up later. Maybe they run cam off them bench and run a lot of plays for him. Otherwise each night I’d be guessing where the majority of bench offense will come from.
In the bubble it was Payne/Saric as creators. Moore isn’t much of a playmaker for others, but he can get his own shot, moreso than Carter. I think Cam will come off the bench and they’ll run a lot of plays to get him shots.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:44 am
by ShelC
O_Gardino wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:10 pm
I pretty happy with bringing in Moore. He's a legit NBA rotation player who was asked to do too much in NO. He will be very solid as a backup guard, and I think he is immediately the 3 guard in the rotation. Now Payne and Carter have to improve to get their minutes, which I think will ultimately be good for them. I think he's our starting PG when Paul is out, even if the other guards are playing well. He's just steady.

He's not the difference maker I hoped for, but I do like him better than most of the other guys left out there.
Yea, without getting too excited, he seems a really good fit as a combo guard who can doesn't need the ball in his hands to effective. He's a long 6-3, 6-4 and defends well, can handle the point in a pinch, strong catch and shoot player, has a real good floater when he gets in the lane. You just know what you're getting from him, which is nice to have with Carter and Payne still a bit unproven.

I'm a little nervous Saric hasn't been announced yet however.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:28 am
by ShelC
Who know if Jones even gets any PT but watching these clips, he's a legit athlete at 6-11 240. This is the kind of burst and quickness off the ground plus aggression you'd hope to see from Ayton. Just effortless getting up to the rim. He knows how to attack the rim and dunk. So yea, maybe in spot minutes CP can do for him what he did for DAJ or Nash for Amare and Steven Hunter. Easy setups for powerful dunks and lobs over the defense. and while the numbers may favor Diallo, he never passed the eye test for me from an athleticism standpoint. Seemed a step slow, never really played above the rim. I thought he showed a nice touch on his jumper, but just never really fit in out there.


Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:52 am
by carey
ShelC wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:44 am
O_Gardino wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:10 pm
I pretty happy with bringing in Moore. He's a legit NBA rotation player who was asked to do too much in NO. He will be very solid as a backup guard, and I think he is immediately the 3 guard in the rotation. Now Payne and Carter have to improve to get their minutes, which I think will ultimately be good for them. I think he's our starting PG when Paul is out, even if the other guards are playing well. He's just steady.

He's not the difference maker I hoped for, but I do like him better than most of the other guys left out there.
Yea, without getting too excited, he seems a really good fit as a combo guard who can doesn't need the ball in his hands to effective. He's a long 6-3, 6-4 and defends well, can handle the point in a pinch, strong catch and shoot player, has a real good floater when he gets in the lane. You just know what you're getting from him, which is nice to have with Carter and Payne still a bit unproven.

I'm a little nervous Saric hasn't been announced yet however.
I've seen a lot of him and he is basically like if Elie Okobo kept developing.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:56 am
by bajanguy008
I am surprised that nobody else remembers him from last season. Sorry to bring up some of these bad clips from the Pre-Bubble Suns but this game when Trae carved us up in the pick n roll all night immediately came to mind when I saw his name because he was a beneficiary and watching that game I was like "even this Jones guy scoring :roll: " lol :lol:
he's just gonna be an end of the bench guy in case we need a big body some nights but just looking back at this game against us. screen for Trae (CP3) roll and dunk, at least he seems to have this down if called on


Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:20 am
by O_Gardino
bajanguy008 wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:56 am
I am surprised that nobody else remembers him from last season. Sorry to bring up some of these bad clips from the Pre-Bubble Suns but this game when Trae carved us up in the pick n roll all night immediately came to mind when I saw his name because he was a beneficiary and watching that game I was like "even this Jones guy scoring :roll: " lol :lol:
he's just gonna be an end of the bench guy in case we need a big body some nights but just looking back at this game against us. screen for Trae (CP3) roll and dunk, at least he seems to have this down if called on

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Perfect reference, bajan. Jones can play, at least on that end of the court. If Monty teaches him some defense, he will be a valuable role player in limited minutes

Plus he is the perfect guy for Ayton to guard in practice. Ayton can get timid around guys who are physical and show more aggression, especially if he's not expecting it. I hope Jones takes him to school in practice so that Ayton gets used to these kind of players.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:29 am
by Split T

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 am
by O_Gardino
Welcome back, Dario.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:33 am
by Split T
Unless these deals have team options in year 3, we seem to have pivoted away from cap space in 2022.

Re: Free Agency Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:35 am
by O_Gardino
Now lets fill the roster with young guys with potential to break out and grow into something. Another wing and one more big, please. Can't believe Reed went 58 or something and Tillie went undrafted and we didn't get either.