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Also, the story of the workout for the Lakers against Michael Cooper's defense.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2108 ... hared=true

"Jerry said, 'Coop. Play him. Push him. Deny him. Work him. Play him physical now!'" Cooper recalled.

"OK, I've seen enough."
West's summation was plain: "Best workout I've ever seen. He's better than anybody we have on the team right now. Let's go."

Did anybody else watch the Brazil/US friendly today? Barbosa looked pretty good for Brazil.

Was bored outta my mind watching that game for some reason.

Shawn Marion apparently has committed to the Cavs.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Was bored outta my mind watching that game for some reason.

I hear ya. I kind of slogged through it due to my NBA basketball withdrawals. NBATV has all these games from the past season playing but I haven't found a single Suns game. Sucks.

https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/502547526827126786 Quite a haul for Minnesota. Looks like they're getting Young AND Bennett.

That is a winner for Minny adding Thad to that. Wow, I feel like they come out way ahead now.

What a lousy return for Thad Young. Does Sam Hinkie have any other strategy than to suck and draft players that can't even suit up and play in an actual NBA game? Ugh.

INFORMER wrote:What a lousy return for Thad Young. Does Sam Hinkie have any other strategy than to suck and draft players that can't even suit up and play in an actual NBA game? Ugh.

Do you think there be a point where Silver steps in? I mean that is giving him away. Tanking and rebuilding are 2 different things, and Hinkie is clearly tanking.

Expiring contracts (including one marginal prospect) and a 1stR pick. Pretty standard return, as well as fair. How is Philly ever getting discernibly more for Young at 2/18PO?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/502547673460011008

I thought we might get in on that Thad Young trade for some reason but then realized he's not a pg

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Robot wrote:I thought we might get in on that Thad Young trade for some reason but then realized he's not a pg

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LOL

Ring_Wanted wrote:Expiring contracts (including one marginal prospect) and a 1stR pick. Pretty standard return, as well as fair.

Alexey Shved is not a prospect.

The Suns got more for Luis Scola. And no, I'm not using hindsight to evaluate the package they got for Scola.

It's a terrible deal.

INFORMER wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:Expiring contracts (including one marginal prospect) and a 1stR pick. Pretty standard return, as well as fair.

Alexey Shved is not a prospect.

The Suns got more for Luis Scola. And no, I'm not using hindsight to evaluate the package they got for Scola.

It's a terrible deal.

Amen. Thad Young is a good player and all they got was a mid to late 1st for him. Awful for Tankadelphia, great for Minny.

Terrible? Young is basically an expiring contract. Actually, much worse than that. He has a player option.

Thad the player is better than that package, but once all factors are considered, you are not getting more than one decent asset for him. Nobody is banging Philli's door offering multiple picks and/or real prospects. And you can leave the Scola trade alone, as his contract status was exactly the opposite. Gortat is a better comparison, and the return was pretty much the same.

Young's expiring status isn't as detrimental to his value as you make it out to seem. He's too young, too good, and having his bird rights makes a difference in free agency. I'm not suggesting they would get equal value, but there is a large gulf between equal value and the poo-poo platter for which they settled.

He is not merely expiring. Player has control over his own fate, team loses value. And that value was already far from equal given that this is clearly a dump, and by definition that takes away from the player's worth in the first place.

It may be a dump, but the point is, it doesn't have to be. He isn't overpaid. He isn't declining. He's a commodity, regardless of the player option. He isn't even making 10 figures, and that's very significant after the ridiculous spending this summer. Sorry, there isn't any reasonable way to spin this as the best move possible.

Spin? The way you are selling Thad, the best move possible was keeping him. Do you think the 76rs have not burned the phones since last season to get the largest possible haul? It's just that the market and the specific value for Young is simply not that high, despite how much you may like the player. A top10 protected 1stR pick is fair once you acknowledge other factors than the quality of the player.