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Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:07 pm
by Split T
ShelC wrote:I still don't understand how we couldn't get Brogdon back for Bledsoe. That should've been a no-brainer.
It's fairly simple, Milwaukee wouldn't do it.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:21 pm
by INFORMER
I would make another run at him this summer.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:52 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:
ShelC wrote:I still don't understand how we couldn't get Brogdon back for Bledsoe. That should've been a no-brainer.
It's fairly simple, Milwaukee wouldn't do it.
Yep. They didn’t have to. Nobody wanted Eric.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:32 pm
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote:I still don't understand how we couldn't get Brogdon back for Bledsoe. That should've been a no-brainer.
Yeah, I thought Brogdon was a gimme. The fact that we somehow didn't get him in the deal really makes me question what McDo was up to in that negotiation.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:26 pm
by specialsauce
Burns and Gambo having a discussion right now. If Kawhi Leonard were to agree to sign a long term deal with the Suns, would you trade the #1 overall pick for him if you’re the Suns?

The more I think about it, if his health checks out, I would.

If I did that though, I’d then try to trade Josh Jackson for a stud PG or PF.

Unless you play Kawhi at the 2 and Booker at PG.

Booker Kawhi Jackson PF? C?

Could we have any cap space left to sign Deandre?

Booker Kawhi Jackson PF Deandre? We’d need a stretch 4 if that’s the case. One with more of an offensive game than Dragan, although he may grow into the role.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:41 pm
by ShelC
Not sure I would. I know I'm in the minority here but I don't love Kawhi. I'd rather move forward with Booker, Jackson and the #1 pick.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:55 pm
by Split T
If he checks out health wise and wants to stay, then ya I'd trade the #1 overall pick for him. Kawhi was a top 5 guy in the NBA the last couple years. He's perfect next to Booker

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:56 pm
by Mori Chu
I love Kawhi, and just from a probability standpoint, he's likely better than whomever you'd get with the #1 pick. So on paper that's a good deal. The problem is that his skills are super redundant with the pieces we have. He's a swingman when our two best players are swingmen, and he wants the ball a lot to be effective, just like Booker and Jackson. I think those three would be a really bad fit together.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:58 pm
by Gladiator
ShelC wrote:Not sure I would. I know I'm in the minority here but I don't love Kawhi. I'd rather move forward with Booker, Jackson and the #1 pick.
I think I'm leaning this way too. There's just enough queries on his health/durability and how much of his stellar play is a product of the Spurs system that I'd stick with the number one pick. But I would be sorely tempted.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:59 pm
by specialsauce
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I love Kawhi, and just from a probability standpoint, he's likely better than whomever you'd get with the #1 pick. So on paper that's a good deal. The problem is that his skills are super redundant with the pieces we have. He's a swingman when our two best players are swingmen, and he wants the ball a lot to be effective, just like Booker and Jackson. I think those three would be a really bad fit together.
His DPOY level talent and 3 point shooting are not redundant. Anything but.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:12 pm
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I love Kawhi, and just from a probability standpoint, he's likely better than whomever you'd get with the #1 pick. So on paper that's a good deal. The problem is that his skills are super redundant with the pieces we have. He's a swingman when our two best players are swingmen, and he wants the ball a lot to be effective, just like Booker and Jackson. I think those three would be a really bad fit together.
His DPOY level talent and 3 point shooting are not redundant. Anything but.
Exactly. He makes Jackson redundant, but he'd be easy to move for a piece that fits better.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:12 pm
by Mori Chu
I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:27 pm
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.
Agreed

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:31 pm
by specialsauce
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.
I would too. Don’t get me wrong. But if they would t accept that, I would bend.

I definitely wouldn’t trade the first AND Jackson for him.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:39 pm
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.
I would too. Don’t get me wrong. But if they would t accept that, I would bend.

I definitely wouldn’t trade the first AND Jackson for him.
Would you do the first and Jackson for Kawhi and dejounte Murray?

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:33 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.
I would too. Don’t get me wrong. But if they would t accept that, I would bend.

I definitely wouldn’t trade the first AND Jackson for him.
Would you do the first and Jackson for Kawhi and dejounte Murray?
I would do 2 firsts, just not the #1 overall.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:43 pm
by In2ition
Do we know for sure that Kawhi will be moved this summer? Also, do you gut a lot of the young core before it gets started?

It's a tough decision as Kawhi is a mvp caliper player, but this mystery injury is concerning. Also, would the Suns have enough pieces to start competing with just Booker and Kawhi?

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by carey
I think that those of you willing to hop on the Kawhi train after what he has done to the Spurs are crazy.

If he could job the Spurs, who are well respected, he wouldn't think twice about telling us to suck our own dongs. Sorry you gave up all those picks but I'm playing in L.A.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:01 pm
by specialsauce
carey wrote:I think that those of you willing to hop on the Kawhi train after what he has done to the Spurs are crazy.

If he could job the Spurs, who are well respected, he wouldn't think twice about telling us to suck our own dongs. Sorry you gave up all those picks but I'm playing in L.A.
Of all things he could tell us, that’s what you went with. :shock: :shock:

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:02 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:
specialsauce wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'd much rather trade Josh Jackson and some other picks/assets for Kawhi than our current #1 pick.
I would too. Don’t get me wrong. But if they would t accept that, I would bend.

I definitely wouldn’t trade the first AND Jackson for him.
Would you do the first and Jackson for Kawhi and dejounte Murray?
No way. That’s basically a Jackson for Murray swap to me as I think we should get Kawhi for the first pick and a bunch of filler.