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Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:44 pm
by JCSunsfan
Cap wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:58 pm
Great. I post a concern about Ayton’s knees, and then get a scouting video comparing him to Embiid and Oden.
Watch some video of Embiid in college and Ayton in college. Embiid is all over the place throwing his body everywhere. Ayton has a much more compact, almost military way of moving. It conserves energy and lessens impact.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:44 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:23 am
MightyMoog wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:20 am
What do you guys think of Chandler + Duds + 16 for Parsons + 4. Maybe we need to sweeten it a bit and throw in the Milwaukee pick. I'd do this trade in heartbeat if doncic falls past Sacto.
Memphis wouldn't make that trade even with the Milwaukee pick.
I agree that isn't enough. What do you think it would take?
Our own future first round pick.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:21 pm
by In2ition
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:44 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:23 am
MightyMoog wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:20 am
What do you guys think of Chandler + Duds + 16 for Parsons + 4. Maybe we need to sweeten it a bit and throw in the Milwaukee pick. I'd do this trade in heartbeat if doncic falls past Sacto.
Memphis wouldn't make that trade even with the Milwaukee pick.
I agree that isn't enough. What do you think it would take?
Our own future first round pick.
To get Doncic, I would have no hesitation to throw that in.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:35 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:21 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 pm
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:44 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:23 am
MightyMoog wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:20 am
What do you guys think of Chandler + Duds + 16 for Parsons + 4. Maybe we need to sweeten it a bit and throw in the Milwaukee pick. I'd do this trade in heartbeat if doncic falls past Sacto.
Memphis wouldn't make that trade even with the Milwaukee pick.
I agree that isn't enough. What do you think it would take?
Our own future first round pick.
To get Doncic, I would have no hesitation to throw that in.
Same.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
by O_Gardino
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:38 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
Whatever it takes. Do it!

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Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:24 pm
by jonh
Cap wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:05 pm

Why would there be any division? You figure Doncic would resent Ayton for being drafted ahead of him? Why would there be sides to pick?
I don’t it would come from who was picked first—it would just come from having a few guys that have a similar backgrounds, specifically bender, Doncic, and Kokoskov—its easy to form cliques with that kind of similarity, and I could think of a few narratives about people in that group being resented as the “coaches favorite” or having groups in the team that don’t get along.

Maybe that type of infighting doesn’t happen as much at the nba leve, or maybe it wouldn’t impact wins/losses—I don’t know. But because I hear about this stuff all the time at work, I know it can be a problem on other teams.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:47 pm
by INFORMER
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:58 pm
Oden failed because his body broke down, not because of a lack of ability.
Even when healthy, he wasn't anything special. He could block a shot or two, rebound pretty well, but didn't offer much on the offensive end. He wasn't going to be a star.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
by JustWinBaby
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:28 pm
by TOO
JustWinBaby wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.
:roll:

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:46 pm
by Shabazz
JustWinBaby wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.
That’s really absurd, man.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:48 pm
by INFORMER
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks.
Where is this coming from?

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JustWinBaby wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.
Taking Trae Young in the top 5 of this draft is a fireable offense in my book.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:09 pm
by In2ition
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 pm
JustWinBaby wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.
Taking Trae Young in the top 5 of this draft is a fireable offense in my book.
Haha :lol:

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:08 pm
by JustWinBaby
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:09 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 pm
JustWinBaby wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:52 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:37 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm
The least it would be is Warren + 16 + 31 + a good future pick + take back salary. I'd do it in a heartbeat for Doncic.

But Woj seems convinced that someone ATL, MEM, and DAL are all open to trading their picks. Maybe something happens
I don't think it would take Warren when the Suns would be taking back an extra $25M in salary for 2019-20.
If WOJ is right. Ryan should have no excuse for not ending up with either Doncic of Trae Young, correct.

If he doesn't then he should be fired prior to the press conference for Ayton.
Taking Trae Young in the top 5 of this draft is a fireable offense in my book.
Haha :lol:

You guys cannot handle the truth.

I expect you will be delighted when we draft Holiday at 16 and McDonough tells Igor to choose between Knight, Ulis and Holiday as your starting point guard, after all, I am the GM deal with it. That has been how he has handled previous coaching staffs.

You also probably are planning a parade in honor of Ryan no matter, whom he picks #1.

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:43 am
by Superbone
Jared Dudley: Ayton could change course of Suns

http://arizonasports.com/story/1552612/ ... on-course/

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:43 am
by Superbone
It Looks Like the Suns Have Made Up Their Minds About Deandre Ayton
The former Arizona Wildcat seems like he’ll be remaining in the state

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/7/ ... draft-2018

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:00 am
by Mori Chu
Do you guys think they'll announce who they're picking prior to the draft?

Re: With the FIRST pick in the 2018 NBA draft, the Phoenix Suns select...

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:13 am
by Gladiator
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:00 am
Do you guys think they'll announce who they're picking prior to the draft?
It feels like they already have