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Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:33 am
by INFORMER
Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why stop at $5 million?
But conceptually, I think trying to iron out a 1-yr deal in lieu of signing the QO is the way to go.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:39 am
by INFORMER
Superbone wrote:Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why would he sign that when he's willing to look away from $48 million and sign the QO? It's only $1.3 M more than he'll get for the QO.
Because it's still a 1-yr deal, which grants him the freedom to enter free agency as an unrestricted free agent in 2015, which is the entire point of accepting the QO.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:42 am
by Mori Chu
Should the Suns give him a big money 1-year deal? If he doesn't want to be here, GTFO. Bench him and don't play him.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:49 am
by INFORMER
Mori Chu wrote:If he doesn't want to be here, GTFO. Bench him and don't play him.
Well that could harm or even destroy team chemistry, and also hurt the Suns reputation with other agents and players around the league.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:02 am
by carey
INFORMER wrote:Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why stop at $5 million?
But conceptually, I think trying to iron out a 1-yr deal in lieu of signing the QO is the way to go.
So do I. Basically like what the Knicks did with David Lee & Bulls did with Ben Gordon. I am just not sure who would give up anything of value. Maybe wait until the deadline & see if a contender loses their starring PG to injury, though obviously I don't wish that on anyone.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:43 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote:Superbone wrote:Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why would he sign that when he's willing to look away from $48 million and sign the QO? It's only $1.3 M more than he'll get for the QO.
Because it's still a 1-yr deal, which grants him the freedom to enter free agency as an unrestricted free agent in 2015, which is the entire point of accepting the QO.
I'm still not following you. He already becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2015 if he takes the QO, right? So, you're just trying to trade more money for him to give up his trade veto rights?
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:09 pm
by Shabazz
Superbone wrote:INFORMER wrote:Superbone wrote:Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why would he sign that when he's willing to look away from $48 million and sign the QO? It's only $1.3 M more than he'll get for the QO.
Because it's still a 1-yr deal, which grants him the freedom to enter free agency as an unrestricted free agent in 2015, which is the entire point of accepting the QO.
I'm still not following you. He already becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2015 if he takes the QO, right? So, you're just trying to trade more money for him to give up his trade veto rights?
Yes. Paying him to give up his veto rights is the idea.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:39 pm
by JCSunsfan
Shabazz wrote:Superbone wrote:INFORMER wrote:Superbone wrote:Shabazz wrote:If it comes to the point that Bledsoe is about to take his qualifying offer, what about offering him a 1 year, $5M deal so he loses his veto rights (for $1M+) and we have the ability to trade him anywhere it suits us?
Why would he sign that when he's willing to look away from $48 million and sign the QO? It's only $1.3 M more than he'll get for the QO.
Because it's still a 1-yr deal, which grants him the freedom to enter free agency as an unrestricted free agent in 2015, which is the entire point of accepting the QO.
I'm still not following you. He already becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2015 if he takes the QO, right? So, you're just trying to trade more money for him to give up his trade veto rights?
Yes. Paying him to give up his veto rights is the idea.
Would the team that trades for him then have his Bird rights? The way he has been acting , they might not WANT them.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:00 pm
by carey
JCSunsfan wrote:
Would the team that trades for him then have his Bird rights? The way he has been acting , they might not WANT them.
That's a good question. I'm pretty sure they would not which would considerably shrink any market for him (which is already quite small considering his contract demands.)
Though I just read the CBA...." a player who signs a one year contract and who will be a bird or early bird free agent at the end of the contract cannot be traded without the player's consent. If the player consents and is traded the player loses whatever bird rights he has acquired."
So maybe that's why we haven't done it. CBA change.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:37 pm
by Superbone
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/512004896183562240
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/512004950390751232
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:00 pm
by SDC
Mori Chu wrote:Should the Suns give him a big money 1-year deal? If he doesn't want to be here, GTFO. Bench him and don't play him.
the suns already have thomas. just offer part of bledsoe's contract to another big man (ayon or blatche) and zoran dragic and move on.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:03 pm
by SDC
the godfather has spoken.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:44 pm
by lazyboy62
Love how that tweet was broken up. LOL
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:22 pm
by Superbone
lazyboy62 wrote:Love how that tweet was broken up. LOL
Heh, yep. The setup and then the spike.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:56 pm
by Cap
INFORMER wrote:Mori Chu wrote:If he doesn't want to be here, GTFO. Bench him and don't play him.
Well that could harm or even destroy team chemistry, and also hurt the Suns reputation with other agents and players around the league.
Having a player on a one-year deal who's not in your long-term plans and is basically auditioning for his next team is... not exactly a novel situation in the NBA. Nor in Phoenix. So what. If the rental is one of the top two or three players on the team, you still start him and play him substantial minutes and make the best of the situation for everyone involved.
On the other hand, a fan being really peeved by his disrespectful behavior and venting is something I can get behind.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:59 am
by SDC
i think the suns can afford to sign blatche
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2013/3/16 ... free-agent
Andray Blatche would take less next year to make Wizards pay more
By Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN on
Mar 16 2013, 10:41a
Former Washington Wizards big man Andray Blatche is in a unique situation next summer. He is a free agent because his one-year minimum contract with the Brooklyn Nets expires,
and yet he still is being paid $7.8 million next year and $8.5 million the year after from the Wizards after being released with the amnesty clause last summer.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:06 am
by Shabazz
Hey SDC, what do you think the Suns should do with their two remaining roster spots? Do you like Blatche and Zoran as potential additions?
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:11 am
by carey
Shabazz wrote:Hey SDC, what do you think the Suns should do with their two remaining roster spots? Do you like Blatche and Zoran as potential additions?
We need a like button of some sort.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:26 am
by ShelC
Pass on Blatche. Skills wise yes, character...nah.
Re: Eric Bledsoe [RFA]
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:03 am
by carey
ShelC wrote:Pass on Blatche. Skills wise yes, character...nah.
I hear what you are saying but no one wins without a problem child or 2 at least not in the NBA.