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Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:15 am
by Sunsfan4life
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:The #1 takeaway from that video .... BENDER HAS A BROTHER! Draft 'em both, people!
LOL. No No..just draft the brother. We like the lesser ones first.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:16 am
by Sunsfan4life
I like Ben Bentil....I have him as an option at 34, but wouldn't mind him at 28. Think he may of came out a yr early, but when I was watching Dunn alot this yr I really liked what I saw from him. Kinda a tweener but I'd give him a hard look at the end of the first.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:27 am
by Sunsfan4life
I'm interested to follow the career of Big Ben Simmons here in Philly. I don't think the sixers is an ideal place for a guy with some "desire" concerns, but he has the tools to be an All-NBA player.
Hopefully the 76ers do something about that backcourt which has got to be the worst in the NBA talent wise. (I know somewhere where they can get backcourt help!!)
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:15 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:The #1 takeaway from that video .... BENDER HAS A BROTHER! Draft 'em both, people!
Mistery solved, thats our pick right there on sight.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:41 pm
by Cap
Ivan Bender has messed up knees, another thing that makes him fit to be a Sun.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:59 pm
by OE32
I already cast my final vote... and now, as these things go, I'm having doubts. Watching the finals made me want to add athleticism to this roster. That's a dangerous road to travel, though. Many an incredible athlete has turned out to be nothing but just an athlete.
I don't know who the correct pick is. But the one who would excite me the most is unquestionably Marquese Chriss. Highlight plays galore! No idea if he has what it takes to correct the myriad and egregious problems with his game.
I have no choice but to put my faith in McD.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:02 pm
by Indy
I have no choice but to put my faith in McD.
You do know that is the same guy that thought signing Bledsoe to a long contract after knee issues and a spotty history was a good thing, right? And that adding IT to Goran and Bledsoe was a good thing. And that trading 3 months of Knight for our highest value asset was a good thing. And that resigning him to a long contract was a good thing. I will stop there.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:11 pm
by OE32
Indy wrote:I have no choice but to put my faith in McD.
You do know that is the same guy that thought signing Bledsoe to a long contract after knee issues and a spotty history was a good thing, right? And that adding IT to Goran and Bledsoe was a good thing. And that trading 3 months of Knight for our highest value asset was a good thing. And that resigning him to a long contract was a good thing. I will stop there.
You shoulda stopped before you started, Lance.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:12 pm
by Indy
I think we can agree that Lance is worse.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:15 pm
by OE32
Because speculating about the NBA potential of Bender, Sabonis and Chriss is... worthless, really - what do we know, after all? - how about this question.
Supposing we take a PF at 4, should we also draft another big at 13 if we regard that player as BPA? I'm talking Sabonis, Ellenson, Skal (blech!). I think one could justify adding one of Bender or Chriss plus Ellenson on the theory that Bender and Chriss are 4/3s and Ellenson a 4/5.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:16 pm
by OE32
Indy wrote:I think we can agree that Lance is worse.
Indyd we can.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:25 pm
by O_Gardino
OE32 wrote:Because speculating about the NBA potential of Bender, Sabonis and Chriss is... worthless, really - what do we know, after all? - how about this question.
Supposing we take a PF at 4, should we also draft another big at 13 if we regard that player as BPA? I'm talking Sabonis, Ellenson, Skal (blech!). I think one could justify adding one of Bender or Chriss plus Ellenson on the theory that Bender and Chriss are 4/3s and Ellenson a 4/5.
Depends on the rest of the roster. I would say not to bring in more than 2 pfs that we think can play this year. So if you bring back Teletovic, you can't take Ellenson (gross) and Sabonis, who are both fairly ready. But you could possibly bring in Skal if you think he is a year or two away from floor time. If you don't bring back Teletovic, then draft as many pfs as you want.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:22 pm
by INFORMER
Sunsfan4life wrote:I like Ben Bentil....I have him as an option at 34, but wouldn't mind him at 28. Think he may of came out a yr early, but when I was watching Dunn alot this yr I really liked what I saw from him. Kinda a tweener but I'd give him a hard look at the end of the first.
I liked him too, but a bit of a chucker.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:23 pm
by INFORMER
Interesting take on Skal:
"It's just a matter of how you view his first year," one sympathetic talent evaluator said. "It was not what you expected. But what do you think he could do in a different environment? It's just going to be hard to pass on his length. He can hit the mid-range pick and pop. He's got to evolve into more of a shot blocker, more of a rebounder."
Labissiere puts at least one longtime scout in mind of P.J. Brown, who took a very similar build (6-foot-11, 225) and got 15 NBA seasons out of it as a hard-nosed defender and rebounder. "When P.J. came out of Louisiana Tech, everybody thought he was soft," the scout said. "And then he grew up and matured, and all of a sudden he became kind of a physical player, who could also make that little midrange shot. And that's what this guy can do right now."
http://www.nba.com/news/features/david_ ... ialssplit4
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:53 am
by Danimal
What they did on brighside/SB nation was kinda cool. having a guy from each team participate in draft which allowed for trades etc.
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2016/ ... brown-send
in summary he got bender and brown and ended up dumping knight.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:01 pm
by ShelC
Nice breakdown here. I'm a big fan of Valentine and might take him at 13 if we still have the pick and his knees check out. He's a basketball player and can handle and distribute. He and Booker together would be real fun to watch.
http://www.campusrush.com/2016-nba-draf ... 57167.html
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:06 pm
by In2ition
I like Valentine, but fear he's going to be the classic "great in college, can't play in the pros" guy. 28 is as high as I draft him, maybe even 34.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:22 pm
by Split T
What does everyone think of Caris Lavert? 6'7 with length. Good spot up shooter, good passer. 45% from 3, 4.9 Ast to 1.6 turnovers. He'll struggle on d if he can't bulk up as he's very skinny, but he's athletic and has the tools to be a good defender. Injury issues are real as he can't seem to stay healthy, but on a talent level, he's definitely worth a look at 34 IMO.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:32 pm
by Superbone
There is a 4 pm PT ESPN NBA mock draft special featuring Ford and Bilas today for anybody that is interested.
Re: NBA Draft Prospects Discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:30 pm
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:What does everyone think of Caris Lavert?
Love the basketball talent, would be willing to take him in the second round. Huge injury concern though.