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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:07 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:56 pm


Jackson got the full room exception for 2 years.
That is nuts. I feel like he has just as much of a chance to be in prison as in the NBA in 2 years.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:05 pm
by Indy
9% of the league tested positive for COVID last week.


Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:33 pm
by Cap
Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:05 pm
9% of the league tested positive for COVID last week.

If it turns out Ayton is one of them and has to miss camp, I’m gonna be unhappy.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:22 pm
by Shabazz
Indy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:07 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:56 pm


Jackson got the full room exception for 2 years.
That is nuts. I feel like he has just as much of a chance to be in prison as in the NBA in 2 years.
Detroit's offseason has been completely head-scratching.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:28 pm
by Mori Chu
That is pretty shocking about 9% of the league having COVID. I hope it doesn't lead to any long-term ill effects for them this coming season. I am worried that we won't be able to keep things running without a bubble.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:56 pm
by ShelC

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:56 pm
by Split T
Wonder if Harden is next...

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:26 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins got their wish of playing together. Well, we'll see how much actual playing they do.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:43 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:56 pm


Jackson got the full room exception for 2 years.
Yeah, he needs to go to his room.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:56 am
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:56 pm
Apparently it is a 2023 protected 1stR.

Houston fans must be pulling their hair out. Not because losing Westbrook is a drama in 2020, but because of the way the new owner has destroyed a contender. So similar to Sarver when he bought the Suns.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:27 am
by ShelC
Ehhh were they really contenders to begin with? I don't love the Wall-Harden backcourt and it could be a precursor to another move because if Wall proves healthy you might be able to move him faster than Westbrook.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:37 am
by Flagrant Fowl
Houston Trades: James Harden, Eric Gordon
Chicago Trades: Zach LaVine, Otto Porter Jr.

I know it's a terrible basketball deal for Houston, but that's kind of the point. They don't have many options. At least something like this would free up (cut?) almost $30M off the Rockets '21-'22 roster payroll.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:44 am
by ShelC

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:11 am
by Split T


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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:20 am
by O_Gardino
That John Wall contract extension still shocks me. I have to check to see if it really is that bad, then I find out it was even worse than I remembered. My brain can't handle a contract that bad.

He was injured for 2 years before that crazy extension kicked in. This dude has made 75 million since his last healthy season, and he has 120 million left on his contract. He's on track to make 200 million without making a meaningful contribution the the league.

I would love to see a John Wall rule in the next CBA where all nba contracts are only partially guaranteed.
- Bring back the inactive list.
- If you go on the inactive list, you have to sit out a minimum of 5 games.
- While a player is on the inactive list, the team can bring in another player to fill that roster spot.
- If I player spends more than 20 games on the inactive list, he only gets paid a % of his contract,
- If the contract is greater than room exception or lower, then the lowest the salary can go is the room exception for the year it was signed.
- Luxury tax is calculated on what teams actually pay.
- During the offseason, all players are assumed to be healthy for the next season, unless...
- If a player is placed on the inactive list during the offseason, he can only play a maximum of 20 games and his salary is reduced accordingly.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:24 am
by O_Gardino
Under that system, Wall would make a minimum of about 11 million if he misses the whole season in 2020-2021.
He would make about 32 million if he is healthy enough to play 37 games.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:37 am
by Split T
Ya there’s no chance the players association would allow that to happen. Doesn’t insurance end up covering a lot of these players contracts that get hurt?

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:50 am
by virtual9mm
To be fair, Sarver ran with the team he inherited and messed it up bit-by-bit. It took him nearly a full decade to completely destroy it. In contrast, the Rockets have done it in a fraction of the time.

Note that both implosions started with running D'Antoni off -- although Gentry was able to right the ship for a few years.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:13 am
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:28 pm
That is pretty shocking about 9% of the league having COVID. I hope it doesn't lead to any long-term ill effects for them this coming season. I am worried that we won't be able to keep things running without a bubble.
It is probably close to the current % of background COVID across the country for the entire untested population.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:13 am
by Ring_Wanted
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:20 am
That John Wall contract extension still shocks me. I have to check to see if it really is that bad, then I find out it was even worse than I remembered. My brain can't handle a contract that bad.

He was injured for 2 years before that crazy extension kicked in. This dude has made 75 million since his last healthy season, and he has 120 million left on his contract. He's on track to make 200 million without making a meaningful contribution the the league.

I would love to see a John Wall rule in the next CBA where all nba contracts are only partially guaranteed.
- Bring back the inactive list.
- If you go on the inactive list, you have to sit out a minimum of 5 games.
- While a player is on the inactive list, the team can bring in another player to fill that roster spot.
- If I player spends more than 20 games on the inactive list, he only gets paid a % of his contract,
- If the contract is greater than room exception or lower, then the lowest the salary can go is the room exception for the year it was signed.
- Luxury tax is calculated on what teams actually pay.
- During the offseason, all players are assumed to be healthy for the next season, unless...
- If a player is placed on the inactive list during the offseason, he can only play a maximum of 20 games and his salary is reduced accordingly.
Just make it so the a cut player's contract doesn't count against the cap. The player still gets the money he is entitled to and the team can mome on from the albatross and try to compete. Also make it that in case the player is signed by another team, the former team doesn't have to pay the equivalent to his new contract.