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Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:59 pm
by Shabazz
Kings are super weird:


Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pm
by Indy

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:06 pm
by Indy
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:59 pm
Kings are super weird:

Weird enough to trade Sabonis to us for Ayton?

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:11 pm
by Split T


This is good for 2 reasons…I’d take him as our backup 1 and it shaves money from Brooklyn, which makes a sign and trade easier in a potential KD trade

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:13 pm
by Indy
the first domino!

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:46 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
NBA media would meltdown if the Nets traded KD before Kyrie.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:39 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:41 pm
by INFORMER
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:19 pm
Love all those complementary deals you mention.

But you kept the most important piece a mystery. What’s your DA sign and trade.

Don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks
Every scenario I've come up with, a trade goes down moments later that makes it impossible.

Right now I have Ayton going to Chicago.

Phoenix receives: Eric Bledsoe (only $3 million of his salary is guaranteed), Coby Whites, Tony Bradley, and the draft rights to Dalen Terry

Chicago receives: Deandre Ayton

Portland receives: Lonzo Ball

I don't want Vucevic back because I want court time for a young big we sign and I want to bring in Kevin Love. And I think it will hard to move him to another team. This deal is iffy because Portland would have to be comfortable with Ball's medicals, which reportedly don't look good.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:46 pm
by INFORMER
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:51 pm
What's to stop the Nets from trading Kyrie anyway?
Indy wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:18 pm
Yeah none of this means Kyrie or KD are in Brooklyn during training camp.
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:21 pm
If anything, it paves the way for the most logical path to trade Kyrie.

He was never going to opt-out and take the MLE or something ridiculous, and no team would be willing to S&T for him at his requested contract figures.
Well what this means is that Kyrie's plan is to play for Brooklyn this season. Could Brooklyn still trade him? Of course. But Durant still is apparently loyal to him, and there aren't any suitors currently out there. So far now, yes, Durant and Irving are staying where they are.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm
by INFORMER
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:05 pm
I think there's a clear buy low opportunity on Duncan Robinson. He's not as bad as he's being portrayed right now and could certainly become a top level 6th man. It makes some sense for the Suns if they want to develop an alternative to extending Cam Johnson.
There is no upside to acquiring Robinson; the best possible outcome is that he finds a way to get his stroke back, and even then, he is just another pricey role player.

So yes, this sounds like a James Jones move.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:51 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Miles Bridges..WTF? Kiss that max contract goodbye.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:52 pm
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:30 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:54 am
Why go for Bamba when JaVale is a better version of that kind of player? Just re-sign McGee.
I don’t think Javale is a better version. I think Bamba is better. Bamba can shoot.
Exactly.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:05 pm
I think there's a clear buy low opportunity on Duncan Robinson. He's not as bad as he's being portrayed right now and could certainly become a top level 6th man. It makes some sense for the Suns if they want to develop an alternative to extending Cam Johnson.
There is no upside to acquiring Robinson; the best possible outcome is that he finds a way to get his stroke back, and even then, he is just another pricey role player.

So yes, this sounds like a James Jones move.
Good to have your “always in rebuild mode/upside” back.

You’re right that there isn’t upside because of his salary. I just value guys who can put the ball in the basket. James and I are simpatico in that way.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:57 pm
by INFORMER
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:49 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:18 pm


I don’t get this really for either team. Dejounte and Trae is a weird fit
I guess it’s like Utah did with Deron Williams. Tea leaves are that he’s leaving in 2 years so get as much as you can for him.
Yeah, it's probably some Rich Paul shenanigans behind the scenes. San Antonio also probably doesn't want another Kawhi situation and decided to preemptively strike.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:57 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:46 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:51 pm
What's to stop the Nets from trading Kyrie anyway?
Indy wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:18 pm
Yeah none of this means Kyrie or KD are in Brooklyn during training camp.
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:21 pm
If anything, it paves the way for the most logical path to trade Kyrie.

He was never going to opt-out and take the MLE or something ridiculous, and no team would be willing to S&T for him at his requested contract figures.
Well what this means is that Kyrie's plan is to play for Brooklyn this season. Could Brooklyn still trade him? Of course. But Durant still is apparently loyal to him, and there aren't any suitors currently out there. So far now, yes, Durant and Irving are staying where they are.
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Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:58 pm
by specialsauce
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:41 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:19 pm
Love all those complementary deals you mention.

But you kept the most important piece a mystery. What’s your DA sign and trade.

Don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks
Every scenario I've come up with, a trade goes down moments later that makes it impossible.

Right now I have Ayton going to Chicago.

Phoenix receives: Eric Bledsoe (only $3 million of his salary is guaranteed), Coby Whites, Tony Bradley, and the draft rights to Dalen Terry

Chicago receives: Deandre Ayton

Portland receives: Lonzo Ball

I don't want Vucevic back because I want court time for a young big we sign and I want to bring in Kevin Love. And I think it will hard to move him to another team. This deal is iffy because Portland would have to be comfortable with Ball's medicals, which reportedly don't look good.

Ugh of course your scenario involves draft rights to some chump!

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:00 pm
by INFORMER
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:54 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:05 pm
I think there's a clear buy low opportunity on Duncan Robinson. He's not as bad as he's being portrayed right now and could certainly become a top level 6th man. It makes some sense for the Suns if they want to develop an alternative to extending Cam Johnson.
There is no upside to acquiring Robinson; the best possible outcome is that he finds a way to get his stroke back, and even then, he is just another pricey role player.

So yes, this sounds like a James Jones move.
Good to have your “always in rebuild mode/upside” back.

You’re right that there isn’t upside because of his salary. I just value guys who can put the ball in the basket. James and I are simpatico in that way.
I didn't mean upside in the traditional draft context; I meant it in just general sense: you're trading for a shooter who is no longer a good shooter and he has a hefty price tag. If he can regain his shooting much, he still doesn't address any of our major needs. So I at least would be left wondering, "what are we doing here"?

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:01 pm
by Shabazz
INFORMER wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:41 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:19 pm
Love all those complementary deals you mention.

But you kept the most important piece a mystery. What’s your DA sign and trade.

Don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks don’t say draft picks
Every scenario I've come up with, a trade goes down moments later that makes it impossible.

Right now I have Ayton going to Chicago.

Phoenix receives: Eric Bledsoe (only $3 million of his salary is guaranteed), Coby Whites, Tony Bradley, and the draft rights to Dalen Terry

Chicago receives: Deandre Ayton

Portland receives: Lonzo Ball

I don't want Vucevic back because I want court time for a young big we sign and I want to bring in Kevin Love. And I think it will hard to move him to another team. This deal is iffy because Portland would have to be comfortable with Ball's medicals, which reportedly don't look good.
Awful. Sorry. Just horrible.

A nickel, a dime and 2 pennies for $1.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:03 pm
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:53 pm
But why is Atlanta doing it? Trae hasn’t been very good off ball and DeJounte is not a shooter. They are both great players so they’ll figure something out, just don’t think either will be maximized next to each other.
Apparently Trae and Dejounte are tight and they really want to play together. But yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense on paper. It's like Ryan McDonough sneaked into the Hawks front office.

Re: Around the League News - 2022 Offseason Edition

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:04 pm
by INFORMER
TOO wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:57 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:51 pm
Hmmmm

Somewhere Gambo is very excied.
He was really bad last year. Really bad.