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Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:35 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/487726011149086720 Lord help me, I kind of agree with Gambo...

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:36 pm
by TOO
Gross, as I tweeted him, there is no upside paying Frye til the age of 35. None.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:37 pm
by ShelC
SpecialSauce...blast from the past.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:38 pm
by The Bobster
Isaiah Thomas "Scouting Video" -


Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:39 pm
by carey
Listening to Gambo now... saying there has to be another domino to fall. Just way too much money for a backup PG when you just drafted Ennis. Everyone thinks Ennis will eventually be a starter, why give Thomas so much money? If we keep Bledsoe this move makes no sense to me. The only other thing I can think is we're letting Gerald Green go? Otherwise I see absolutely no minutes for Goodwin or Ennis.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:40 pm
by The Bobster
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Gross, as I tweeted him, there is no upside paying Frye til the age of 35. None.
Agreed.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:43 pm
by TOO
carey wrote:Listening to Gambo now... saying there has to be another domino to fall. Just way too much money for a backup PG when you just drafted Ennis. Everyone thinks Ennis will eventually be a starter, why give Thomas so much money? If we keep Bledsoe this move makes no sense to me. The only other thing I can think is we're letting Gerald Green go? Otherwise I see absolutely no minutes for Goodwin or Ennis.
Isnt this Greens final year of his deal? He could very easily be on his way out.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:44 pm
by ShelC
We have to be in play for a SF or PF with maybe Bledsoe as bait. Maybe S+T Bledsoe for Monroe?

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:45 pm
by carey
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Isnt this Greens final year of his deal? He could very easily be on his way out.
It is. Still, I would rather one year of Green than 4 years of Thomas, at this point. I'll wait until I see the roster on day 1 of training camp, but right now I'm not a fan of this move.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:45 pm
by Sunsfan4life
I love the player, it just doesn't make sense with this current roster. Has to be something with the Bledshow. Maybe he wants the Max and Mcdonaugh is saying no way.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:46 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Why would IT2 choose us over a team like Dallas where he'd get more mins only competting with Devin Harris and Felton? Or Miami? has to of been told about another move

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:49 pm
by ShelC
Supposedly he wants to be a starter or have a legit chance to start, which won't be the case now as is. Right now, he's a super 6th man. But yea, he could've talked to Miami or Milwaukee.

Word is that our vision remains with Bledsoe and Dragic and Thomas off the bench to give us a dangerous backcourt. I don't disagree, I just don't want to see Goodwin get held back.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:50 pm
by The Bobster
Last Season -

Thomas - 34.7 Min, 20.3 Pts, 45.3 FG%, 34.9 3P%, 85.0 FT%, 2.9 Reb, 6.3 Ast, 1.3 Stl
Dragic - 35.1 Min, 20.3 Pts, 50.5 FG%, 40.8 3P%, 76.0 FT%, 2.3 Reb, 5.9 Ast, 1.4 Stl
Bledsoe - 32.9 Min, 17.7 Pts, 47.7 FG%, 35.7 3P%, 77.2 FT%, 4.1 Reb, 5.5 Ast, 1.6 Stl
Green - 28.4 Min, 15.8 Pts, 44.5 FG%, 40.0 3P%, 84.7 FT%, 3.4 Reb, 1.5 Ast, 0.9 Stl

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:12 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote: A guy that just put 20ppg for 7m? Thats a wal mart price for him, how does Sac not pay 1m more per to keep him over Collison? Incredible.
He's not a starting PG in this league though. You're comfortable paying your 3rd/4th G $7m/yr? I'm really interested in seeing what move is next. You gotta think Goodwin is scratching his head. Ennis too.
That guard rotation is going to be nasty! Balls out for 48 minutes. The other teams aren't going to know what hit them.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:16 pm
by TOO
ShelC wrote:Supposedly he wants to be a starter or have a legit chance to start, which won't be the case now as is. Right now, he's a super 6th man. But yea, he could've talked to Miami or Milwaukee.

Word is that our vision remains with Bledsoe and Dragic and Thomas off the bench to give us a dangerous backcourt. I don't disagree, I just don't want to see Goodwin get held back.
Green and Goodwin can both be 2/3 swings imo. If Archie is good enough to play, he'll play. No doubt in my mind.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:20 pm
by The Bobster
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Green and Goodwin can both be 2/3 swings imo. If Archie is good enough to play, he'll play. No doubt in my mind.
If he's made as big a step forward as we're led to believe by the reports on his summer progress, they'll make room for him somehow.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:23 pm
by SwingMan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
ShelC wrote:Supposedly he wants to be a starter or have a legit chance to start, which won't be the case now as is. Right now, he's a super 6th man. But yea, he could've talked to Miami or Milwaukee.

Word is that our vision remains with Bledsoe and Dragic and Thomas off the bench to give us a dangerous backcourt. I don't disagree, I just don't want to see Goodwin get held back.
Green and Goodwin can both be 2/3 swings imo. If Archie is good enough to play, he'll play. No doubt in my mind.
Green at 3 was a nightmare early on this past season - I can only hope that he'll be in a pending trade package to help free up the now-massive guard logjam.....

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:32 pm
by TOO
Green at any position defensively was a nightmare, dude is a turnstile. Offensively I think the whole position thing is fluid with how we run, so I think we'll be ok.

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:41 pm
by SwingMan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Green at any position defensively was a nightmare, dude is a turnstile. Offensively I think the whole position thing is fluid with how we run, so I think we'll be ok.
Can't argue with the former - on the latter, the man was neutered on both ends.....

Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:51 pm
by Gladiator
ShelC wrote:Supposedly he wants to be a starter or have a legit chance to start, which won't be the case now as is. Right now, he's a super 6th man. But yea, he could've talked to Miami or Milwaukee.

Word is that our vision remains with Bledsoe and Dragic and Thomas off the bench to give us a dangerous backcourt. I don't disagree, I just don't want to see Goodwin get held back.
Not to mention Ennis, who seemed like a curious pick at the time of the draft and even more so now, if all the guards are kept.