How Would You Rebuild the Suns?

[INFORMER]

Yep, here is my free agency shopping list at this point:

CORY JOSEPH - Not interested at a salary more than his $5.1M player option. Would rather have someone with more upside at that price.

I don't see him having an option year. I just see him listed as unrestricted free agent. I would only sign him for the vet minimum.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Yep, here is my free agency shopping list at this point:

CORY JOSEPH - Not interested at a salary more than his $5.1M player option. Would rather have someone with more upside at that price.

I don't see him having an option year. I just see him listed as unrestricted free agent. I would only sign him for the vet minimum.

You're right. I misread spotrac. Yeah, the minimum wouldn't bother me either.

[INFORMER]

Yep, here is my free agency shopping list at this point:

KEITA BATES-DIOP - Worth a look at the minimum. I worry that he's never contributed to a winning situation, so could be a waste of that salary spot.

I don't see how that could be the case. We're giving minutes to Ish Wainright. I don't think there are a lot of better options than KBD for the minimum.

[INFORMER]

I'd like to see the Suns hold onto Darius Bazley

Agreed.

[Vladimir_Taltos]

So if the rumors work to...

Washington ' Beal, Kuzma

Suns Paul, Shamet

...somebody said a prayer that was answered...that would be VERY interesting. I´d like to have VanVleet, but that would be an interesting lineup.

VT

[Flagrant Fowl]

What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?

With the Beal trade done, I could be on board with Nurkic, Little and pick #23 for Ayton.

[TOO]

What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?

With the Beal trade done, I could be on board with Nurkic, Little and pick #23 for Ayton.

I don't believe Nurkic would work for Vogel, maybe I'm wrong, but he's a tortoise, playing a drop or not, he's gonna get cooked.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Good point.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I don't really see how Ayton is long for the Suns now that he'll be even less of an offensive threat. I hope they have a strategy to bring in someone more focused on defense and rebounding at his position in addition to a salary that enables a deeper rotation.

[Wally_West]

I don't really see how Ayton is long for the Suns now that he'll be even less of an offensive threat. I hope they have a strategy to bring in someone more focused on defense and rebounding at his position in addition to a salary that enables a deeper rotation.

The way Bobby marks made it sound, if we don’t trade him this year, it’s going be very tricky to trade him in the future. So much so, that we would probably be locked in with Book, KD, Beal and Ayton for the next 4 years. I very much want to get off his salary. I said Ayton for Gordon Hayward and couple of their seconds would be good enough for me. Maybe there are better deals out there but that deal lets us get off 32 million next year. Worth it for me.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I don't really see how Ayton is long for the Suns now that he'll be even less of an offensive threat. I hope they have a strategy to bring in someone more focused on defense and rebounding at his position in addition to a salary that enables a deeper rotation.

The way Bobby marks made it sound, if we don’t trade him this year, it’s going be very tricky to trade him in the future. So much so, that we would probably be locked in with Book, KD, Beal and Ayton for the next 4 years. I very much want to get off his salary. I said Ayton for Gordon Hayward and couple of their seconds would be good enough for me. Maybe there are better deals out there but that deal lets us get off 32 million next year. Worth it for me.

Bobby Marks gets a lot of stuff wrong or at least oversells the infeasibility of certain transactions. He was terrible last summer during the KD stuff.

While I think it's increasingly likely Ayton is traded, I'm not so sure it'll happen quickly. Ishbia wants to win above all else, and trading Ayton just to do it or for cap reasons won't be an option to him. I think they have a set price in their mind and will make the deal if someone meets it.

If he's still on the team to start the season, it'll be interesting to see his body language without Monty and Paul around.

[specialsauce]

What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?

With the Beal trade done, I could be on board with Nurkic, Little and pick #23 for Ayton.

I don't believe Nurkic would work for Vogel, maybe I'm wrong, but he's a tortoise, playing a drop or not, he's gonna get cooked.

Send DA to Willie Green for Jonas V and Herb Jones or Trey Murphy

[JeremyG]

I don't really see how Ayton is long for the Suns now that he'll be even less of an offensive threat. I hope they have a strategy to bring in someone more focused on defense and rebounding at his position in addition to a salary that enables a deeper rotation.

The way Bobby marks made it sound, if we don’t trade him this year, it’s going be very tricky to trade him in the future. So much so, that we would probably be locked in with Book, KD, Beal and Ayton for the next 4 years. I very much want to get off his salary. I said Ayton for Gordon Hayward and couple of their seconds would be good enough for me. Maybe there are better deals out there but that deal lets us get off 32 million next year. Worth it for me.

Bobby Marks gets a lot of stuff wrong or at least oversells the infeasibility of certain transactions. He was terrible last summer during the KD stuff.

While I think it's increasingly likely Ayton is traded, I'm not so sure it'll happen quickly. Ishbia wants to win above all else, and trading Ayton just to do it or for cap reasons won't be an option to him. I think they have a set price in their mind and will make the deal if someone meets it.

If he's still on the team to start the season, it'll be interesting to see his body language without Monty and Paul around.

Exactly. This is what I’ve been saying for a month now.

And the rumors about trading him into cap space to open up exceptions have a zero percent chance of happening. If Ishbia was determined to hold on to Paul’s salary slot, he’s not going to throw away Ayton’s salary slot.

[INFORMER]

What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?

With the Beal trade done, I could be on board with Nurkic, Little and pick #23 for Ayton.

I don't believe Nurkic would work for Vogel, maybe I'm wrong, but he's a tortoise, playing a drop or not, he's gonna get cooked.

Send DA to Willie Green for Jonas V and Herb Jones or Trey Murphy

Yes please.

[INFORMER]

Although the way Ishbia rolls, I would expect the Suns to get Zion Williamson.

[TOO]

Although the way Ishbia rolls, I would expect the Suns to get Zion Williamson.

Imagine.

[JeremyG]

Although the way Ishbia rolls, I would expect the Suns to get Zion Williamson.

Imagine.

Him sitting on the bench in street clothes? Yes, very easy to imagine.

[Split T]

[specialsauce]

Although the way Ishbia rolls, I would expect the Suns to get Zion Williamson.

Imagine.

Him sitting on the bench in street clothes? Yes, very easy to imagine.

Lol yeah hard pass on Zion but InF is totally right

[Split T]

I mean I’d take Zion over Ayton, but I’d rather have option c(depth)