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Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:14 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 am

Yea, as of right now Clarke seems to be a lower 1st round pick. He may rise as the draft gets closer. I always say take the guy you want regardless of draft position but if we were to get Memphis' pick at 7 or 8, I may try and flip that to Brooklyn for their 16th and 27th or even 16th and 31st, take Clarke at 16 (assuming he's there), then do whatever with the later pick. BPA or even sell it for cash. Boston also has multiple 1sts so maybe we can grab 14 and 22 from them for the Memphis pick.

I still like Clarke the best if we don’t land top 2. I get Marion vibes with him. The athleticism, ability to defend everyone, ugly jumpshot. I just think he’ll be a guy that doesn’t demand the ball, but does so many good things offensively and defensively.

And that's fine, but I wouldn't grab him at 3 or 4 or 5 if he's projected to go 12-20 or even later. Same with Hunter or Washington. Hunter I don't love as much as a potential starting PF but I like that kind of 6-7ish power swing. All 3 could be nice fits next to Ayton, just want to grab the right guy at the right spot.

I think Clarke has risen. He’s in the lottery in ESPN’s latest mock.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:32 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:14 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 am

Yea, as of right now Clarke seems to be a lower 1st round pick. He may rise as the draft gets closer. I always say take the guy you want regardless of draft position but if we were to get Memphis' pick at 7 or 8, I may try and flip that to Brooklyn for their 16th and 27th or even 16th and 31st, take Clarke at 16 (assuming he's there), then do whatever with the later pick. BPA or even sell it for cash. Boston also has multiple 1sts so maybe we can grab 14 and 22 from them for the Memphis pick.

I still like Clarke the best if we don’t land top 2. I get Marion vibes with him. The athleticism, ability to defend everyone, ugly jumpshot. I just think he’ll be a guy that doesn’t demand the ball, but does so many good things offensively and defensively.

And that's fine, but I wouldn't grab him at 3 or 4 or 5 if he's projected to go 12-20 or even later. Same with Hunter or Washington. Hunter I don't love as much as a potential starting PF but I like that kind of 6-7ish power swing. All 3 could be nice fits next to Ayton, just want to grab the right guy at the right spot.

I think Clarke has risen. He’s in the lottery in ESPN’s latest mock.

I think Clarke will go in the top 10.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:13 pm

Wow, I completely missed this news:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... er-brother

Jontay Porter re-tore his ACL in March.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:14 pm

No surprise there. I'd be thrilled if the Suns drafted him.

Wormwood wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:40 am

No Brandon Clarke with our pick. He's barely top 10. SF sized. Already 23. So-so rebounder. FT% is below average. Not a 3 point shooter. All giant red flags on a good day, and certainly not worth the 4-7th pick. Really not much here that Holmes doesn't already give us. Not a great fit, either (we desperately need shooters for spacing)

He reminds me of Stephan Lasme very strongly, and that's not a good thing. Same build, same penchant for blocks, same age issues, etc...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... est01.html

Cap wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:06 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:14 pm

No surprise there. I'd be thrilled if the Suns drafted him.

What’s the highest you would take him?

Wormwood wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:40 am

No Brandon Clarke with our pick. He's barely top 10. SF sized. Already 23. So-so rebounder. FT% is below average. Not a 3 point shooter. All giant red flags on a good day, and certainly not worth the 4-7th pick. Really not much here that Holmes doesn't already give us. Not a great fit, either (we desperately need shooters for spacing)

He reminds me of Stephan Lasme very strongly, and that's not a good thing. Same build, same penchant for blocks, same age issues, etc...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... est01.html

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:24 am

Wormwood wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:40 am

No Brandon Clarke with our pick. He's barely top 10. SF sized. Already 23. So-so rebounder. FT% is below average. Not a 3 point shooter. All giant red flags on a good day, and certainly not worth the 4-7th pick. Really not much here that Holmes doesn't already give us. Not a great fit, either (we desperately need shooters for spacing)

He reminds me of Stephan Lasme very strongly, and that's not a good thing. Same build, same penchant for blocks, same age issues, etc...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... est01.html

Lasme wasn't an offensive player; Clarke is. He has scoring instincts, and is absolutely money finishing in the paint. He has a soft touch with his floater, has already demonstrated an ability to hit from the perimeter, has footwork in the post, and finishes above the rim. He also is an above average passer. You can't ignore that stuff.

There are reasonable concerns to have about him, I agree. But I don't think anyone who has actually seen Lasme and Clarke play would ever compare the two. That is a comparison made on paper, not on film.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:24 am

Wormwood wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:40 am

No Brandon Clarke with our pick. He's barely top 10. SF sized. Already 23. So-so rebounder. FT% is below average. Not a 3 point shooter. All giant red flags on a good day, and certainly not worth the 4-7th pick. Really not much here that Holmes doesn't already give us. Not a great fit, either (we desperately need shooters for spacing)

He reminds me of Stephan Lasme very strongly, and that's not a good thing. Same build, same penchant for blocks, same age issues, etc...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... est01.html

Lasme wasn't an offensive player; Clarke is. He has scoring instincts, and is absolutely money finishing in the paint. He has a soft touch with his floater, has already demonstrated an ability to hit from the perimeter, has footwork in the post, and finishes above the rim. He also is an above average passer. You can't ignore that stuff.

There are reasonable concerns to have about him, I agree. But I don't think anyone who has actually seen Lasme and Clarke play would ever compare the two. That is a comparison made on paper, not on film.

You're being pretty kind, imo. They don't project even on paper to be even close to the same type of player. It's like thinking RHJ was going to be the next MJ.

Indy wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:07 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:24 am

Wormwood wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:40 am

No Brandon Clarke with our pick. He's barely top 10. SF sized. Already 23. So-so rebounder. FT% is below average. Not a 3 point shooter. All giant red flags on a good day, and certainly not worth the 4-7th pick. Really not much here that Holmes doesn't already give us. Not a great fit, either (we desperately need shooters for spacing)

He reminds me of Stephan Lasme very strongly, and that's not a good thing. Same build, same penchant for blocks, same age issues, etc...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... est01.html

Lasme wasn't an offensive player; Clarke is. He has scoring instincts, and is absolutely money finishing in the paint. He has a soft touch with his floater, has already demonstrated an ability to hit from the perimeter, has footwork in the post, and finishes above the rim. He also is an above average passer. You can't ignore that stuff.

There are reasonable concerns to have about him, I agree. But I don't think anyone who has actually seen Lasme and Clarke play would ever compare the two. That is a comparison made on paper, not on film.

You're being pretty kind, imo. They don't project even on paper to be even close to the same type of player. It's like thinking RHJ was going to be the next MJ.

Didn't we learn from Jazz Twitter that it will be Mitchell as the next MJ.