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Sunsfan4life wrote:

Shabazz wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

Shabazz wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:I am hoping Bender will have similar skills.

Very different players.

Both are big ball handlers and excellent passers. Simmons is a rebounder while Bender is a shooter. I think Bender has shown a better defensive game.

I expect Bender to rebound and lead the break just like Simmons. Watson has said the same thing.

Sorry. I thought you were comparing Bender to Dedmon.

No I would agree that they are pretty different. Bender's two main strengths are his shooting and he is pretty versatile on D and from everything I hear takes defense very seriously and as a challenge. I really like that about him in the changing pick and roll NBA (You saw what value a tristian thompson had in the finals when he was switched onto Curry)

Simmons Passing, Vision, and dribbling for a Big are his best strengths. He was also a very good rebounder in college where as Bender as a meh one. His deficiencies are his shooting (right now...his mechanics aren't that bad, so it can be fixed), His motor and his defense and the question whether he actually wanted to play defense.

They're pretty different. Simmons will be starting alot of breaks for the Sixers this yr, I don't see that in Benders future nor do I see a play similar to what I posted earlier.

JCSunsfan wrote:Bender spent much of his earlier basketball days as a pg, even when he was 6-9. His passing and court vision are exceptional. His ball handling is too. Watson has said that he expects Bender to rebound and lead the break often.

Cap wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:Bender spent much of his earlier basketball days as a pg, even when he was 6-9. His passing and court vision are exceptional. His ball handling is too. Watson has said that he expects Bender to rebound and lead the break often.

Even if that's true, don't expect Bender to routinely make plays like we saw in those Simmons highlights. OE put it best when he said, " ".

OE32 wrote:The sorts of passes Simmons was making were incredible. Just elite. Even a great passing big (like we hope Bender will be) can't be expected to make passes like that. Hell, I don't remember the last guard who came into the league making passes like that. Rubio?

And despite all that sizzle, he only had one turnover. Wow.

carey wrote:

OE32 wrote:The sorts of passes Simmons was making were incredible. Just elite. Even a great passing big (like we hope Bender will be) can't be expected to make passes like that. Hell, I don't remember the last guard who came into the league making passes like that. Rubio?

And despite all that sizzle, he only had one turnover. Wow.

I think you're exactly right. He's a point forward version of Rubio that can't defend yet. He's still young. I just hope the Philly coaching does what they need to do for this kid.

As far as Bender, can we just get a look at the kid before we decide what we can and can't do yet?

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote: As far as Bender, can we just get a look at the kid before we decide what we can and can't do yet?

k

carey wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote: As far as Bender, can we just get a look at the kid before we decide what we can and can't do yet?

k

Why does that deserve an eyeroll? None of us really know what Bender can do because there's hardly any footage and he barely played.

carey wrote:As far as Bender, can we just get a look at the kid before we decide what we can and can't do yet?

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Absolutely. Nash could be luring free agents here, but instead he's with another franchise. Along with Rick Welts.

INFORMER wrote:

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Why was it depressing?

carey wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote: As far as Bender, can we just get a look at the kid before we decide what we can and can't do yet?

k

Why does that deserve an eyeroll? None of us really know what Bender can do because there's hardly any footage and he barely played.

carey wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Absolutely. Nash could be luring free agents here, but instead he's with another franchise. Along with Rick Welts.

I need to pick on you a bit here. Do you really give a s*** about Rick Welts? Do you know what his responsibilities were when he was here and do you know if the person fulfilling them now are doing a better or worse job? Or is it more the "exodus of personnel" that you are frustrated with and not necessarily which personnel outside of Nash and Dragic.

carey wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

Indy wrote:That is such a depressing article, Mori.

Absolutely. Nash could be luring free agents here, but instead he's with another franchise. Along with Rick Welts.

I need to pick on you a bit here. Do you really give a s*** about Rick Welts? Do you know what his responsibilities were when he was here and do you know if the person fulfilling them now are doing a better or worse job? Or is it more the "exodus of personnel" that you are frustrated with and not necessarily which personnel outside of Nash and Dragic.