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Indy wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:47 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:38 am

I wonder if Jones leans on Paul to figure out what he has and maybe what he should do with Ayton. If Paul can't get thru to and get the most out of Ayton, maybe he lets Jones know, either directly or indirectly, whether Ayton is worth holding onto and/or at what price. Does Paul think Ayton is worth a max extension? Is Ayton only worth a max extension if he has a talent like Paul bringing it out in him? Will Ayton fall off or get content with the money?

I try thinking about if Ayton were drafted by the Kings or Hawks, put up the same numbers and kind of play - looking dominant at times and showing the potential but also lacking some and missing that hustle and energy. Would we think he's worth a max or overpay to sign him away from another team? Would we think it's just the situation/coaching? Would we say, "so what, he's 20/10 and doesn't even have to try"?

I think most of us wouldn't know much about him, because although he gets 20/10 without trying, he does it in unspectacular fashion, and in a way that doesn't impact the game (on offense). So he wouldn't be on any highlights, and we would mostly see him when he plays us.

I just can't imagine paying this version of Ayton 30M-40M/year for 5 years. You do that for all-nba players.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:17 am

Let's see what Ayton does this season. He has a lot of growing to do, but he did grow last year. I expect he will grow this year, too.

DA took a big step on defense last year, and I thought he didn't have the same lapses on D that he had on O. Monty said many times that he wanted to bring Ayton along slowly and build from the ground up. He didn't want to give DA too much responsibility too fast. Maybe this season DA and Monty focus more on scoring or rebounding.

We will see.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:42 am

There was an NBA article about the five best players from Ayton's draft and he wasn't one of the five. I don't know if I agree with that but that was painful to see.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:59 am

Doncic, Trae, SGA, and ... Bridges? Who else has made a name for themselves?

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:40 pm

This article's "re-draft" has Ayton at #5 and Bridges at #10 (same spot he was drafted at): https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/redr ... dre-ayton/

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:45 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:40 pm

This article's "re-draft" has Ayton at #5 and Bridges at #10 (same spot he was drafted at): https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/redr ... dre-ayton/

I have a lot of disagreements with this article.

3rdside wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:59 pm

Jalen Smith as insurance if we decide to let Ayton walk? We become a small(ish) ball 3pt shooting machine.

I'm not comfortable paying Ayton the max as it stands.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:24 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:45 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:40 pm

This article's "re-draft" has Ayton at #5 and Bridges at #10 (same spot he was drafted at): https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/redr ... dre-ayton/

I have a lot of disagreements with this article.

This article is just silly. JJJ and SGA over DA? I am not even sure that Trae > DA. And I suspect that taking DA over Doncic will amount to taking Hakeem over Jordan.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:41 pm

I would trade DA for SGA right now.