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Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:43 pm
by Superbone

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:36 am
by Mori Chu
This is kind of interesting. They look at the places where the Trump campaign is spending money on their ads, inferring that these are the states they are competing in and trying to win. It implies that they are targeting the electoral map below. While this very well could work out for Trump, it relies on him winning both Pennsylvania and Georgia, among other swingy states. It's a narrow path to victory.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:03 am
by virtual9mm
Rasmussen now has Harris up by +1.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:04 am
by virtual9mm
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:36 am
This is kind of interesting. They look at the places where the Trump campaign is spending money on their ads, inferring that these are the states they are competing in and trying to win. It implies that they are targeting the electoral map below. While this very well could work out for Trump, it relies on him winning both Pennsylvania and Georgia, among other swingy states. It's a narrow path to victory.

Attack him in Georgia and Pennsylvania

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:06 am
by Superbone
virtual9mm wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:04 am
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:36 am
This is kind of interesting. They look at the places where the Trump campaign is spending money on their ads, inferring that these are the states they are competing in and trying to win. It implies that they are targeting the electoral map below. While this very well could work out for Trump, it relies on him winning both Pennsylvania and Georgia, among other swingy states. It's a narrow path to victory.

Attack him in Georgia and Pennsylvania
Yep, beat him in the two states he's targeting and that should do it. Of course, he'll be preparing his election lies and there is zero doubt he'll be spouting them probably no matter the outcome.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:22 pm
by Cap
According to 270 to Win (https://www.270towin.com/road-to-270-co ... &year=2024), Harris has 20 combinations to win. 10 of them include PA. The rest all include GA and/or NC.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:46 pm
by Split T
So it seems it might come down to 3 states…Trump needs NC, PA, and GA…if Kamala steals one of them she wins.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:52 pm
by Split T
I would add Arizona, but it seems Arizona might not matter. It’s definitely in play for both candidates, but if the other swing states leaning blue stay that way(Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada), Arizona isn’t enough to get the Dems to 270 and isn’t enough to replace losing NC, GA, or PA for the Reps.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:11 pm
by Cap
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:46 pm
So it seems it might come down to 3 states…Trump needs NC, PA, and GA…if Kamala steals one of them she wins.
Not quite. If Trump wins all three he definitely wins, and if Harris wins all three she definitely wins, but splits can go either way. For example, Trump can win with MI, AZ, WI, and any one of PA/NC/GA.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:24 pm
by Cap
Trump’s non-PA winning routes:

GA/NC and any of (AZ/MI, AZ/WI, MI/NV, MI/WI).
GA or NC and AZ/MI/WI

Harris’s non-PA winning routes:

GA/NC and any of (AZ/NV, AZ/WI, MI, NV/WI)
GA or NC and any of (AZ/MI/NV, AZ/MI/WI, MI/NV/WI)

Aside from one of those combos, PA decides the election.

(I might have missed a few possibilities, I’ll double-check this when I have a chance.)

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:47 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:11 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:46 pm
So it seems it might come down to 3 states…Trump needs NC, PA, and GA…if Kamala steals one of them she wins.
Not quite. If Trump wins all three he definitely wins, and if Harris wins all three she definitely wins, but splits can go either way. For example, Trump can win with MI, AZ, WI, and any one of PA/NC/GA.
Ya I was just already putting MI/WI to Kamala…she has a bigger lead there in the polls and it seems Trump isn’t campaigning there. But if they are still in play there are other paths

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:24 pm
by Mori Chu
Some new senate polls.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:51 pm
by Mori Chu
Nate Silver is more bullish on Trump's chance of winning than most of the other pollsters and analysts that come through my feed.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:41 pm
by virtual9mm
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:51 pm
Nate Silver is more bullish on Trump's chance of winning than most of the other pollsters and analysts that come through my feed.

Silver is better. But he cautions against reading too much into it, there is a variable for a convention bounce.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:50 am
by Mori Chu
More interesting senate polling. I've also seen polls that show Kamala within 2-3 points in Florida. But IMO the Dems shouldn't sink a ton of money into trying to win these big red states; it's enticing, but I think ultimately you'll waste resources there and end up losing anyway. Best to invest in the known swing states like PA, rust belt, AZ, NV, GA, NC.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:25 am
by Mori Chu
New NYT election poll has Trump ahead, 48-47. After a long string of polls showing Kamala in the lead, this one is sobering.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:28 am
by Mori Chu
Another poll from CBS of some swing states.


Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm
by Mori Chu
So the Presidential debate is tonight. I'll post about it here; I may watch (some of) it live, though my kids may have something to say about that.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:12 pm
by Kryptonic
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:08 pm
So the Presidential debate is tonight. I'll post about it here; I may watch (some of) it live, though my kids may have something to say about that.
Just tell the kids this is Bluey's evil cousin whose really orange.

Re: 2024 Election

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:24 pm
by TOO
I will watch it while Hasanabi yells at Kamabla for not distancing herself from Bidenomics.