Re: The Kevin Durant Problem
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:30 pm
If we do get Rudy or Poeltl, we should flip Richards to the Lakers for some 2nd round capital.
You don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.
Then who is our backup C? Oso (good)?Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:43 pmI’d do this regardless if we get one of those centers or not lol
Better? Yes. Good? Not really. Scoring outside of the Book is gonna be a real problem with the Twolves deal. Unless Dillingham has a breakout year. I kinda think he’s gonna be bust tbh. Our ceiling is probably a 8th seed at best. I think the Raps deal could potentially put us closer to the 6th seed only because we get 2 solid starters at a premium positions in PG and C with Quickley and Poeltl. Plus l like the prospects at 9 a lot more than at 17 haha.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:46 pmYou don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.
Yes, I’m fine with Oso as our backup C next year. I’m okay with just getting draft capital for players that’s clearly not in our future plans. Richards is in the last year of his deal, so do you really think Richards is here next year? I don’t, so get some 2nd rounders for him.Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:54 pmThen who is our backup C? Oso (good)?Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:43 pmI’d do this regardless if we get one of those centers or not lol
Or, more specifically, he will finally be right about DiVincenzo coming to the Suns (draft day 2018). Lol.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:56 pmGambo probably likes the Wolves offer more because it has an Italian coming to the Suns.
I like the Minnesota deal, if we aren’t going to do a rebuild. If they throw in another first rounder, it would be a home run at this point.
Ya I don’t think we really disagree. I don’t think Gobert makes us anything more than a 1st round exit. I don’t have much of an opinion on Dillingham.Wally_West wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:13 pmBetter? Yes. Good? Not really. Scoring outside of the Book is gonna be a real problem with the Twolves deal. Unless Dillingham has a breakout year. I kinda think he’s gonna be bust tbh. Our ceiling is probably a 8th seed at best. I think the Raps deal could potentially put us closer to the 6th seed only because we get 2 solid starters at a premium positions in PG and C with Quickley and Poeltl. Plus l like the prospects at 9 a lot more than at 17 haha.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:46 pmYou don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.
Couldn’t agree more…I hate that we are prioritizing good players for next year.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
I think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pmI think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
Hmmm, I like it…We’re gonna acquire as many boring high floor/low ceiling players as possible to make sure Houston doesn’t get any good picksvirtual9mm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pmI think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pmI think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
I'm thinking it's smart.
Sorry, but nothing about this team and its trajectory the last two years makes me think they’re even 1/4 that smart, but one can hope.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pmI think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pmI think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
I'm thinking it's smart.
Because the real target has always been Houston. We have more leverage on them than the other trade partners because we largely control the value of these picks. Playing hardball with them.Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:39 pmHmmm, I like it…We’re gonna acquire as many boring high floor/low ceiling players as possible to make sure Houston doesn’t get any good picksvirtual9mm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pmI think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pmI think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.INFORMER wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pmThe Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.
I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.
I'm thinking it's smart.