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If we do get Rudy or Poeltl, we should flip Richards to the Lakers for some 2nd round capital.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:30 pm

If we do get Rudy or Poeltl, we should flip Richards to the Lakers for some 2nd round capital.

I’d do this regardless if we get one of those centers or not lol

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:59 pm

Toronto deal is better because of #9…but apparently suns want to be good. That’s why they want Rudy. He makes us good next year almost by himself.

????? Come on, Split. Be serious. Haha

You don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:28 pm

If you take the Toronto package the “OR” needs to be IQ. You can’t have a potential starting lineup with Dunn, Poeltl and RJ. The spacing would be rough.

It would be rough…we’d go all in on defense and make Booker/RJ make tough shots in a crowded paint.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:43 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:30 pm

If we do get Rudy or Poeltl, we should flip Richards to the Lakers for some 2nd round capital.

I’d do this regardless if we get one of those centers or not lol

Then who is our backup C? Oso (good)?

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:46 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:59 pm

Toronto deal is better because of #9…but apparently suns want to be good. That’s why they want Rudy. He makes us good next year almost by himself.

????? Come on, Split. Be serious. Haha

You don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.

Better? Yes. Good? Not really. Scoring outside of the Book is gonna be a real problem with the Twolves deal. Unless Dillingham has a breakout year. I kinda think he’s gonna be bust tbh. Our ceiling is probably a 8th seed at best. I think the Raps deal could potentially put us closer to the 6th seed only because we get 2 solid starters at a premium positions in PG and C with Quickley and Poeltl. Plus l like the prospects at 9 a lot more than at 17 haha.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:54 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:43 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:30 pm

If we do get Rudy or Poeltl, we should flip Richards to the Lakers for some 2nd round capital.

I’d do this regardless if we get one of those centers or not lol

Then who is our backup C? Oso (good)?

Yes, I’m fine with Oso as our backup C next year. I’m okay with just getting draft capital for players that’s clearly not in our future plans. Richards is in the last year of his deal, so do you really think Richards is here next year? I don’t, so get some 2nd rounders for him.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:56 pm

Gambo probably likes the Wolves offer more because it has an Italian coming to the Suns.

Or, more specifically, he will finally be right about DiVincenzo coming to the Suns (draft day 2018). Lol.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:50 pm

The Toronto deal is better imo

I like the Minnesota deal, if we aren’t going to do a rebuild. If they throw in another first rounder, it would be a home run at this point.

Dillingham still has potential to be a starting point guard. DiVincenzo can replace Grayson. And Gobert is a good starting center, and his salary is decreasing the next three years. Plus you get the draft pick(s)? Sign me up.

I just think Minnesota is getting cold feet due to Durant not wanting to be there, or else it would be done by now. If Ant could help change his mind, they might throw in a second pick.

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

In terms of the Raptors, it blows all of these other deals out of the water. And I would take RJ over Quickley; Quickley is talented, but his contract is gross. RJ is productive and is on a reasonable deal. You could easily flip him if he isn't in the long-term plan.

Alas, I doubt Durant would go along with this. He's probably sit out the year. Don't forget how sensitive he is, plus he doesn't forget:

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:13 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:46 pm

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:19 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:59 pm

Toronto deal is better because of #9…but apparently suns want to be good. That’s why they want Rudy. He makes us good next year almost by himself.

????? Come on, Split. Be serious. Haha

You don’t think Rudy makes us better? I should qualify that by good I don’t mean a contender or anything. Also I disagree that we should even be worried about being good next year, I’d take whatever deal makes us better in the future. Toronto offering 9 has my attention.

Better? Yes. Good? Not really. Scoring outside of the Book is gonna be a real problem with the Twolves deal. Unless Dillingham has a breakout year. I kinda think he’s gonna be bust tbh. Our ceiling is probably a 8th seed at best. I think the Raps deal could potentially put us closer to the 6th seed only because we get 2 solid starters at a premium positions in PG and C with Quickley and Poeltl. Plus l like the prospects at 9 a lot more than at 17 haha.

Ya I don’t think we really disagree. I don’t think Gobert makes us anything more than a 1st round exit. I don’t have much of an opinion on Dillingham.

I do like the Toronto deal better, but it’s the 9th pick that does it for me. I don’t think the Toronto deal makes us better than the Minny deal next year…

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

Couldn’t agree more…I hate that we are prioritizing good players for next year.

It's the Blabby Nash years all over again.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.

I think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.

I'm thinking it's smart.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.

I think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.

I'm thinking it's smart.

Hmmm, I like it…We’re gonna acquire as many boring high floor/low ceiling players as possible to make sure Houston doesn’t get any good picks

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.

I think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.

I'm thinking it's smart.

Sorry, but nothing about this team and its trajectory the last two years makes me think they’re even 1/4 that smart, but one can hope.

I just want to see what we can get for KD before the whole world gets nuked.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:39 pm

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:26 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:18 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:54 pm

The Suns need to get over next season; they've dug themselves that no single trade is going to undo it.

I knew this grit and grime garbage was going to be another hinderance in this team making good decisions. Get Ware because he is a talented, young big on a rookie deal; this "soft" foolishness is just silly.

I think he has real upside, even some star potential, but I get Christian Wood vibes from him.

I think the two of you are missing the game-within-a-game. What the Suns are actually doing is putting pressure on Houston by devaluing the Suns' picks. "Throw them in! Otherwise, we'll make them suck" is the message.

I'm thinking it's smart.

Hmmm, I like it…We’re gonna acquire as many boring high floor/low ceiling players as possible to make sure Houston doesn’t get any good picks

Because the real target has always been Houston. We have more leverage on them than the other trade partners because we largely control the value of these picks. Playing hardball with them.