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JCSunsfan wrote:

Wally_West wrote:What about Bledsoe, the 4th pick and maybe some other s*** for the Lakers' 2nd pick? McD gets his guy in Lonzo, while lakers still get a good player at 4 and get Bledsoe, who's Lebron's BFF, which should help in free agency in 2018 to get Lebron.

If the Laker's are inclined to move the 2nd pick, I don't think it will take this much to get it. If they are not inclined to do so, we won't get it at all.

bajanguy008 wrote:Seems like since Lonzo workout and the rumblings about "might have been a lil out of shape" and "not blowing them away" that he is no lock for #2 and his mindset is changing.


Ramona Shelburne‏Verified account @ramonashelburne
Lonzo has only spoken to/worked out for Lakers. I'm told he could still speak w/ teams *below* Lakers in lottery. But no plans to talk to Cs

Chad Ford‏Verified account @chadfordinsider
Lonzo should meet w/other teams. Only Lakers have his medicals. If LA takes Josh Jackson, he could slide if teams don't have critical info

O_Gardino wrote:This podcast is for people who want to hear a detailed breakdown of why each of our players isn't that great.

Bruiser wrote:I guess this is because I believe that the mental aspect of the game is pretty significant and I feel that the entire debacle with his father, the big baller brand empire, him wanting to be a Laker so bad etc. has led to some players already hating and targeting him. I am afraid this added attention might not bode well for him at that young age and could have serious and lasting negative effects on his development and growth as a player and as a human being. We all know that all of this is really his father’s fault (call it undeniable insecurities, blatant attention seeking or a genius marketing-campaign) but it still worries me a lot and even more so if he ends up becoming one of our players. Again, I cannot explain why and you can go ahead and call me a pessimist or Debbie Downer but I expect these effects to be a lot less relevant and troublesome if he actually becomes a Laker. Whatever, I do for sure hope I am wrong.

Superbone wrote:

Bruiser wrote:I guess this is because I believe that the mental aspect of the game is pretty significant and I feel that the entire debacle with his father, the big baller brand empire, him wanting to be a Laker so bad etc. has led to some players already hating and targeting him. I am afraid this added attention might not bode well for him at that young age and could have serious and lasting negative effects on his development and growth as a player and as a human being. We all know that all of this is really his father’s fault (call it undeniable insecurities, blatant attention seeking or a genius marketing-campaign) but it still worries me a lot and even more so if he ends up becoming one of our players. Again, I cannot explain why and you can go ahead and call me a pessimist or Debbie Downer but I expect these effects to be a lot less relevant and troublesome if he actually becomes a Laker. Whatever, I do for sure hope I am wrong.

I felt a lot better about Lonzo after seeing the Foot Locker Father's Day spot.

O_Gardino wrote:This draft is so interesting becasue of all the ceazy wayss it could go down.

Unlikely but possible scenario:
#1 Fultz
#2 Jackson: A lot of speculation that the Lakers love him and don't love Ball.
#3 Monk: A lot of folks believe that Monk is the best fit with Simmons and with what Philadelphia needs.
#4 Fox and Ball are both available, but both refused to work out for the Suns.

Who do you take? Someone who refused the workout; or take them and trade them; or do you skip them and just take the guy you want (Isaac or Tatum)?

Superbone wrote:I like your attitude, Bruiser!

Shabazz wrote:I'm still torn on what to do if Fultz, Ball and Jackson are gone:

Tatum has a smaller range of outcomes than Isaac (less risk, less reward). Isaac is the opposite (higher bust/2-way star potential). Tatum likely conflicts with Warren. Isaac may conflict with Chriss and/or Bender. I'm not sold on Fox. His weaknesses scare me, but I see the appeal. Drafting him would probably require Bledsoe be shipped out, but then we wont have a ton of leverage in a trade and if we take .50 on the dollar, is it really worth drafting Fox?

Shabazz wrote:I'm still torn on what to do if Fultz, Ball and Jackson are gone:

Tatum has a smaller range of outcomes than Isaac (less risk, less reward). Isaac is the opposite (higher bust/2-way star potential). Tatum likely conflicts with Warren. Isaac may conflict with Chriss and/or Bender. I'm not sold on Fox. His weaknesses scare me, but I see the appeal. Drafting him would probably require Bledsoe be shipped out, but then we wont have a ton of leverage in a trade and if we take .50 on the dollar, is it really worth drafting Fox?

Shabazz wrote:I'm still torn on what to do if Fultz, Ball and Jackson are gone:

Tatum has a smaller range of outcomes than Isaac (less risk, less reward). Isaac is the opposite (higher bust/2-way star potential). Tatum likely conflicts with Warren. Isaac may conflict with Chriss and/or Bender. I'm not sold on Fox. His weaknesses scare me, but I see the appeal. Drafting him would probably require Bledsoe be shipped out, but then we wont have a ton of leverage in a trade and if we take .50 on the dollar, is it really worth drafting Fox?

Superbone wrote:

bajanguy008 wrote:Seems like since Lonzo workout and the rumblings about "might have been a lil out of shape" and "not blowing them away" that he is no lock for #2 and his mindset is changing.


Ramona Shelburne‏Verified account @ramonashelburne
Lonzo has only spoken to/worked out for Lakers. I'm told he could still speak w/ teams *below* Lakers in lottery. But no plans to talk to Cs

Chad Ford‏Verified account @chadfordinsider
Lonzo should meet w/other teams. Only Lakers have his medicals. If LA takes Josh Jackson, he could slide if teams don't have critical info

I don't see Lonzo getting past us but what do I know?