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Sunsfan4life wrote:Deyonta Davis out of Michigan st. He's a raw guy who I really would give a look at #13. He hasn't been discussed much on this board. Any thoughts?

DX has had us drafting him for months at #13.

carey wrote:

Sunsfan4life wrote:Deyonta Davis out of Michigan st. He's a raw guy who I really would give a look at #13. He hasn't been discussed much on this board. Any thoughts?

DX has had us drafting him for months at #13.

He looks like another Davis - Ed Davis - to me.

Mori Chu wrote:I know you draft the best player available and don't draft for position. But we absolutely are set at SG for a decade or more with Booker and that's just the long and short of it. The very last thing we need is an SG. I really don't think it does anybody any favors to draft some SG who can't run an offense and then try to play yet another guard out of position. If we really think that guy is the best player available, we don't need that player and should draft and trade him to somebody who does, for some asset that will actually help us.

We have seen one season from the guy, and he is barely 19. For all we know he will never be better than he was this year, or might be injured his entire career. Don't assume that he is the end-all-be-all of SG for us until 2026. Of course, in this draft, I don't know how important the 4th or 5th pick will be, so it may be moot.

Indy wrote:
We have seen one season from the guy, and he is barely 19. For all we know he will never be better than he was this year, or might be injured his entire career. Don't assume that he is the end-all-be-all of SG for us until 2026. Of course, in this draft, I don't know how important the 4th or 5th pick will be, so it may be moot.

This is true, but damn man, way to piss on the only good thing we have going right now.

carey wrote:

Indy wrote:
We have seen one season from the guy, and he is barely 19. For all we know he will never be better than he was this year, or might be injured his entire career. Don't assume that he is the end-all-be-all of SG for us until 2026. Of course, in this draft, I don't know how important the 4th or 5th pick will be, so it may be moot.

This is true, but damn man, way to piss on the only good thing we have going right now.

Ha! I know that is a tough pill to swallow, but you don't make franchise decisions that way. I know this draft and our position isn't that critical this year, but you see it over and over again that the BPA isn't taken because teams already have a guy there they trust and think will be awesome. It doesn't usually work out that way. So play the draft game as if you are assembling a fantasy team where you can't see the players or their names... don't let emotion get in the way.

Below is a list of potential PG's

many of the 2nd round ones seem to swing fairly often on the draft boards between late 1st round and 2nd round. I'm aware what happens with our backcourt largely depends on what we decide to do with knight.

There is probably value to be found in the 2nd round. A rebuild would look nice with GP2 taking on Ronnie price's minutes as a pesky pg off the bench

your thoughts?

Potential 1st rounders
Kris Dunn
Anthony Barber
Demetrius Jackson


Potential 2nd rounders:
Tyler Ulis
Wade Baldwin pg/sg
Gary Payton II
Melo Trimble
Tyrone Wallace pg/sg
Isaiah Cousins Pg/sg
Kay Felder

Melo Trimble is my boy, Blue! I want him with the Cavs pick.

A few podcasts from Brightside on the draft. The one on the 28th discusses a lot of international prospects, but seems to overrate them slightly

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/search?q=podcast

OVERSEAS PROSPECTS

Below are a number of overseas prospects. I haven’t list foreign players who played college in the USA.

Of this group there are a number of draft and stash prospects in the 2nd round, mostly at the center position. Then there is Thon Maker who is a complete wild card at this point.
There a number of wings who actually have some solid handles and could play point in a pinch (Lawawu, Kormaz, Zagorac). Suppose we have Bogdan already for that.
A number of these prospects actually play on the same team together. When you see the videos you will notice they have one of the most hideous basketball uniforms every known to man (pink)

Likely 1st rounders:
Furkan Korkmaz – SG - Turkey: NBA Comparison: Gordon Hayward
Guerschon Yabusele PF – FRANCE: NBA Comparison: Gary Trent/Anthony Bennett
Thon Maker PF/C – Sudan/Australia: No idea what to make of this guy. So very raw. Could be spending extensive time in the D league initially
Timothe Luwawu – SG/SF – France: Thabo Sefolosha

Likely 2nd rounders:
Juan Hernangomez – PF – Spain: NBA Comparison: Victor Claver/Jonas Jerebko
Ivica Zubac – C: NBA Comparison: Zan Tabak
Ante Zizic – C – Croatia: NBA Comparison: Fabricio Oberto/Nikola Pekovic
has a younger brother, so no doubt we acquire both of them
Zhou Qi – C – China: NBA Comparison: JB Carroll/Loren Woods. Was projected top 10 at one point, but appears to have fallen off the map – potentially due to low rebounding numbers in the Chinese league. Looks fundamentally solid, skinny as a rake.
Petr Cornelie – C – France: Mobile, agile big man
Rade Zagorac – SG/SF – Serbia: NBA Comparison: Zarko Cabarkapa

Zarko <sigh>

ShelC wrote:Zarko <sigh>

yup and when you see the guy's videos you will see why. He's as skinny as hell

We can snag a really good player with our 2nd rounder. It's the 4th pick in the 2nd round. DX has us taking Diallo with Trimble still being on the board. Juancho, Beasley, and Brice Johnson could all be there too depending on how the dominoes fall.

Danimal wrote:Below is a list of potential PG's

many of the 2nd round ones seem to swing fairly often on the draft boards between late 1st round and 2nd round. I'm aware what happens with our backcourt largely depends on what we decide to do with knight.

There is probably value to be found in the 2nd round. A rebuild would look nice with GP2 taking on Ronnie price's minutes as a pesky pg off the bench

your thoughts?

Potential 1st rounders
Kris Dunn
Anthony Barber
Demetrius Jackson


Potential 2nd rounders:
Tyler Ulis
Wade Baldwin pg/sg
Gary Payton II
Melo Trimble
Tyrone Wallace pg/sg
Isaiah Cousins Pg/sg
Kay Felder

I like Tyler Ulis, I think he' gonna be a solid pg in the league. I wouldn't take him at 13 though and he won't make it to 28. Gary Payton II is interesting with #33

Not sure if this has been posted here yet. A high school player and NBA/NCAA prospect has been arrested and found out to actually be 30 years old (!).

http://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/ ... -as-a-teen

Crazy story!

I think the lesson in the draft is pretty simple. Don't try to get cute. Don't think you know more than everyone else. Don't "swing for the fences" with your draft pick. Just draft the best player left on the board. That's what the Suns did when they drafted Devin Booker, Steve Nash, and Shawn Marion.

Amare was a swing for the fences pick. So was Dan Majerle.

I know its easier said than done.

We can thank Kwame Brown and Eddy Curry for Amare falling to us that year. Everyone was scared to pick another high schooler.

Anyone interested in trying to trade for Blake Griffin? Seems like the Clippers would like to move him and a change of scenery might work in his favor at this point.

Suns trade: Brandon Knight, Archie Goodwin
Clippers trade: Blake Griffin

Some exchange of picks (not the Suns own first rounder) could be added. Maybe the Suns #13 & #28 for the Clips #25.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone interested in trying to trade for Blake Griffin? Seems like the Clippers would like to move him and a change of scenery might work in his favor at this point.

Suns trade: Brandon Knight, Archie Goodwin
Clippers trade: Blake Griffin

Some exchange of picks (not the Suns own first rounder) could be added. Maybe the Suns #13 & #28 for the Clips #25.

Would take a heck of a lot more than that, unless you meant the green font. We don't have anything they'd want outside of Booker and #4.

carey wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:Anyone interested in trying to trade for Blake Griffin? Seems like the Clippers would like to move him and a change of scenery might work in his favor at this point.

Suns trade: Brandon Knight, Archie Goodwin
Clippers trade: Blake Griffin

Some exchange of picks (not the Suns own first rounder) could be added. Maybe the Suns #13 & #28 for the Clips #25.

Would take a heck of a lot more than that, unless you meant the green font. We don't have anything they'd want outside of Booker and #4.

Ordinarily, I'd agree. But I think the Clips are in a vulnerable situation if they lose to GSW in the next round. I guess we'd probably need to throw in a big guy if we're not giving up our own first rounder. We already fleeced them once for Bledsoe...