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We may already have our future PG on the roster, in Ulis. I wish we'd give him the burn necessary to figure that out.

He's too small to be our full time, starting PG.

I like Ulis, but I think he can crave out his nitch in the NBA as being either s olid backup PG on a very good team or a full time-part time starter on a bad team.

For the Suns sake I hope it's the first. One things for sure, I'm getting sick of Watson not playing our youngsters

Shabazz wrote:This guys is growing on me, but I'm a sucker for players with those kinds of passing gifts:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Lon ... -UCLA-5727

ME 2 and his size blows my mind.

Wouldn't you know when we are in position to get a real franchise impact piece in the draft it would end up likely being a PG.

I am not saying that is bad or good just pretty Sunsypical <---(I just made that up see what I did there? clever huh)

Scares me though we traded Nash after we drafted him too lol. Oh then that Dragic Huston thing.

More to read

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... lationship

"Four. That's the number of possessions David Grace watched before offering then-freshman Lonzo Ball a scholarship."

Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Split T wrote:Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Lonzo is no Nash, Nash was a historically good shooter, Lonzo has a wonky J that is ok in college. We dont need Monk, we have Knight and we hate him, no more combo guards.

I know we have Bender anad Chriss, but TJ Leaf looks like a solid F prospect.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Lonzo is no Nash, Nash was a historically good shooter, Lonzo has a wonky J that is ok in college. We dont need Monk, we have Knight and we hate him, no more combo guards.

I know we have Bender anad Chriss, but TJ Leaf looks like a solid F prospect.

It may be wonky, but he's still shooting 43% from 3.

As for Monk, I think I'd look elsewhere too, but he looks like a special scorer and is a better prospect than knight ever was. Could he be another Gilbert Arenas? Arenas had a strange career, but was very, very good for a few years. Philly should look real hard at Monk, an Embiid/Simmons/Monk trio could be dangerous.

Leaf does look nice, but I'd pass with Chriss and Bender here. I think Giles is the only 4/5 prospect I'd look at with a top 10 pick.

I'd like to see Giles do something before I go throwing him a top 10 nod.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:I'd like to see Giles do something before I go throwing him a top 10 nod.

If you're worried about Bledsoe then you'll want to stay as far away as you can from Giles.

In June 2013, Giles suffered a torn ACL, MCL and meniscus in his left knee. Two years later, the 18-year-old partially tore his right ACL shortly after the 2015-16 season tipped off.

That's before his recent knee scope.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:I'd like to see Giles do something before I go throwing him a top 10 nod.

I wouldn't draft him right now. Just commenting on what I think he could be. I can envision a scenario where I'd draft Giles top 10. He'd have to prove to be healthy and that his #1 highschool ranking is still valid after all his injuries. If those things prove to be true, he's a legit cornerstone talent that you have to consider.

As for Leaf or Markkanen, they both look like great stretch 4 prospects, but I can't justify drafting them with bender and Chriss on our roster and so many other great prospects available at other positions.

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Lonzo is no Nash, Nash was a historically good shooter, Lonzo has a wonky J that is ok in college. We dont need Monk, we have Knight and we hate him, no more combo guards.

I know we have Bender anad Chriss, but TJ Leaf looks like a solid F prospect.

It may be wonky, but he's still shooting 43% from 3.

justise winslow shot 42% on threes in college.

winslow also shot 64% FT. Lonzo ball is currently at 65% FT shooting.

SDC wrote:

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Lonzo is no Nash, Nash was a historically good shooter, Lonzo has a wonky J that is ok in college. We dont need Monk, we have Knight and we hate him, no more combo guards.

I know we have Bender anad Chriss, but TJ Leaf looks like a solid F prospect.

It may be wonky, but he's still shooting 43% from 3.

justise winslow shot 42% on threes in college.

winslow also shot 64% FT. Lonzo ball is currently at 65% FT shooting.

Good points, ball does shoot a lot more threes than Winslow did. The FT% doesn't look good though

Split T wrote:

SDC wrote:

Split T wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

Split T wrote:Could Lonzo be a 6'6 Nash? Right now he's third on my very early list behind Fultz and Josh Jackson.

Thoughts on Malik Monk? I haven't given him much thought cuz he just screamed 2 guard in a 1's body, but he's been so good this year, that he's worth a look. Still not sure a Monk/Booker backcourt would work though.

Edit: 34 points tonight on 11/16 shooting, 5/7 from 3

Lonzo is no Nash, Nash was a historically good shooter, Lonzo has a wonky J that is ok in college. We dont need Monk, we have Knight and we hate him, no more combo guards.

I know we have Bender anad Chriss, but TJ Leaf looks like a solid F prospect.

It may be wonky, but he's still shooting 43% from 3.

justise winslow shot 42% on threes in college.

winslow also shot 64% FT. Lonzo ball is currently at 65% FT shooting.

Good points, ball does shoot a lot more threes than Winslow did. The FT% doesn't look good though

lol @ markelle fultz

47% on 3s, 65% on FTs.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mar ... ltz-90302/

He's still the best player in college right now.

Split T wrote:He's still the best player in college right now.

this video was done 3 months ago by arizona's own mike schmitz. if he's going to be shooting less than 70% at the foul line in the NBA, then he is NOT the best player in this draft class, i predict.

Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Shaq, Tim Duncan, LeBron James... Just a few players who shot under 70% from the FT line at some point in their careers.

Obviously you want Fultz shooting higher than 65% from the line, but doesn't change the fact that he's the best prospect in this draft. Two of his biggest competitors, Jackson and Ball are both under 70% as well.

Split T wrote:Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Shaq, Tim Duncan, LeBron James... Just a few players who shot under 70% from the FT line at some point in their careers.

none of them are point guards. the players comparable to him in the nba are elfrid payton and rajon rondo.

SDC wrote:

Split T wrote:Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Shaq, Tim Duncan, LeBron James... Just a few players who shot under 70% from the FT line at some point in their careers.

none of them are point guards. the players comparable to him in the nba are elfrid payton and rajon rondo.

Lol, you can't just use one stat to compare players. Fultz plays nothing like Payton or Rondo. You can disregard Fultz because he's struggled a bit shooting free throws through his first 15 college games if you want, but I'm taking him if he's available.

By the way, Russell Westbrook shot 54% from the FT line as a freshman.

Split T wrote:

SDC wrote:

Split T wrote:Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Shaq, Tim Duncan, LeBron James... Just a few players who shot under 70% from the FT line at some point in their careers.

none of them are point guards. the players comparable to him in the nba are elfrid payton and rajon rondo.

Lol, you can't just use one stat to compare players. Fultz plays nothing like Payton or Rondo. You can disregard Fultz because he's struggled a bit shooting free throws through his first 15 college games if you want, but I'm taking him if he's available.

By the way, Russell Westbrook shot 54% from the FT line as a freshman.

two points:
1) that's why he never declared during his freshman year.
2) westbrook played only 9 minutes a game, basically garbage minutes during his 1st year in college. fultz is playing 33 mpg this year.