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Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:40 am
https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1049336962916659200
Doesn't sound like the company line to me.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
by da_suns_fan
3rdside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:42 am
Dude picked Len, bender, and chriss, who all suck, and trades up for chriss using a whole bunch of stuff no less... then offloads all of that (admittedly all wrapped up in Chriss) for for a 2nd round Pg?
Then trades up for bridges with that first round pick?
And where the hell’s our PG 10 days out. We even had Payton on our roster and could have had him as a fall back plan and he only cost $2m.
And let’s not even get into the dragic / IT fiasco.
He’s a no talent spotting, turn 3 assets into 2, chemistry killing, clown.
Good riddance.
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Dont forget Morrii disaster.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:50 am
by da_suns_fan
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
Ill give you 400 million reasons why he doesnt.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:53 am
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:47 am
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1049339867543588866
Just what we wanted to hear. Beautiful.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:53 am
by Cap
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
McDonough and Sarver probably had a disagreement regarding the point guard position. I'm sure Sarver wanted Ryan to trade the pick away unprotected and Ryan didn't want to attach him name to it, thus, the firing.
I love how “sure” everyone is about their wild-ass guessing.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:54 am
by ShelC
da_suns_fan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
3rdside wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:42 am
Dude picked Len, bender, and chriss, who all suck, and trades up for chriss using a whole bunch of stuff no less... then offloads all of that (admittedly all wrapped up in Chriss) for for a 2nd round Pg?
Then trades up for bridges with that first round pick?
And where the hell’s our PG 10 days out. We even had Payton on our roster and could have had him as a fall back plan and he only cost $2m.
And let’s not even get into the dragic / IT fiasco.
He’s a no talent spotting, turn 3 assets into 2, chemistry killing, clown.
Good riddance.
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Dont forget Morrii disaster.
And the Hornacek fiasco of making him fire his assistants only to fire him a few weeks later.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:56 am
by Superbone
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo has any interest in being a GM.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
by jonh
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:56 am
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo has any interest in being a GM.
I guarantee you Sarver has no interest in Colangelo being the GM.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
by iLLmatic
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:53 am
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
McDonough and Sarver probably had a disagreement regarding the point guard position. I'm sure Sarver wanted Ryan to trade the pick away unprotected and Ryan didn't want to attach him name to it, thus, the firing.
I love how “sure” everyone is about their wild-ass guessing.
Lol I'm not sure at all..just guessing. That's why I said probably.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:58 am
by Superbone
EDC wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:13 am
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:00 am
EDC wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:57 am
What a circus. The timing on it is awful. I just don't understand how anyone can be up for James Jones. His post playing career is just one year as vp for us.
There were quite a few of us that wanted to keep McD only because we knew if he gets canned he will be replaced with someone with zero experience. Now we get to watch a new GM f*** this team up with stupid trades as they try to learn the position.
Bender might have been the straw that broke the camels back.
But to defend Sarver for a moment--If you know he isn't the guy, even after you just gave him an extension, you bite the bullet and make the move. Don't throw good money after bad.
I guess you are right the timing really doesn't matter.
The real problem is who he hires next and what kind of knee jerk moves they make to please him. The upside of this is I really don't care about anyone on the team besides Booker and Ayton. Oh and future first round picks. So they can shuffle the roster all they want as long as they don't f*** with those guys and too many of our future firsts.
What do we have left? Isn't it just our own and that Milwaukee middling pick?
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:59 am
by Split T
Can we put in for the job? We'll just make a poll for every move and just go with the winner. We'd be better than some of our previous GM's
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:59 am
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:15 am
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
He would've had a championship I'm sure had he not and he could've sold the team for more than 450 million. I'm sure he regrets it every day.
Yep.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:00 am
by Shabazz
What a fucking shit-show. Why do we put ourselves through this? It all will always come back to the fact that it's unbelievably hard for a franchise to win when their owner is terrible. And Sarver is beyond terrible.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 am
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:16 am
I'm glad Woj blasted Sarver and it looks like Sarver's poolboy, Gambo blasted him too. Good. The truth needs to come out, we are dealing with the worst owner in the NBA and it shows.
What good does it do us? He doesn't sell, we're screwed. Now, nobody good will want to work for him.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 am
by JCSunsfan
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:00 am
EDC wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:57 am
What a circus. The timing on it is awful. I just don't understand how anyone can be up for James Jones. His post playing career is just one year as vp for us.
There were quite a few of us that wanted to keep McD only because we knew if he gets canned he will be replaced with someone with zero experience. Now we get to watch a new GM f*** this team up with stupid trades as they try to learn the position.
Bender might have been the straw that broke the camels back.
But to defend Sarver for a moment--If you know he isn't the guy, even after you just gave him an extension, you bite the bullet and make the move. Don't throw good money after bad.
If the owner has no confidence that McD can close the deal in free agency next summer, the time to fire him is now. Waiting just runs the risk of not getting someone in time. Actually. October is probably the perfect time to fire a GM. He got his chance to put his team together. You can evaluate and decide if he is cutting it. Not a lot of big moves are made during the year. The worst time to fire a GM is at the end of a season. There are just too many moving parts for a GM in the off-season.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 am
by iLLmatic
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:00 am
What a f*** s***. Why do we put ourselves through this? It all will always come back to the fact that it's unbelievably hard for a franchise to win when their owner is terrible. And Sarver is beyond terrible.
The worst. At least in the NFL and NBA.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:02 am
by JCSunsfan
jonh wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:56 am
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo has any interest in being a GM.
I guarantee you Sarver has no interest in Colangelo being the GM.
And vice versa.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:02 am
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:01 am
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:16 am
I'm glad Woj blasted Sarver and it looks like Sarver's poolboy, Gambo blasted him too. Good. The truth needs to come out, we are dealing with the worst owner in the NBA and it shows.
What good does it do us? He doesn't sell, we're screwed. Now, nobody good will want to work for him.
Because of a Woj tweet? I think the inner circles of the NBA already know what Sarver's about. It's nice to feel vindicated as a fan at least to know I'm not going crazy.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:04 am
by Superbone
jonh wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:56 am
Charlie Smithy! wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 am
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo ever has any regrets about selling the team.
I wonder if Jerry Colangelo has any interest in being a GM.
I guarantee you Sarver has no interest in Colangelo being the GM.
Yeah, because then Sarver can't call all the shots. He needs a lackey.
Re: Ryan out as GM
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:05 am
by Drewsprocket
iLLmatic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:49 am
McDonough and Sarver probably had a disagreement regarding the point guard position. I'm sure Sarver wanted Ryan to trade the pick away unprotected and Ryan didn't want to attach him name to it, thus, the firing.
I just hope we make a smart trade. If he trades away an unprotected pick, who would be likely the best player Sarver could get in return?