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Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 pm
by JeremyG
Mat seems to have gotten a lot better at this since February.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I'm not going to claim to be familiar with Jordan Goodwin, but "excellent defender" and penning him into the rotation seems overly optimistic at this point.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:38 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:35 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:32 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm
This is the 2nd time a star has handed himself to James Jones. The allure of Booker must be incredibly high around the league.
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.
Stop me when I'm lying lol.
I don't believe the idea that Beal would only go to Phoenix.
Maybe, maybe not, but I'd be willing to bet Ishbia has more pull than JJ. There's also a chance Washington just preferred the cap room to whatever Miami was offering.
I'm sure you'll hand all the credit to James Jones when the next move that doesn't work out as planned pops up.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:39 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 pm
I'm not going to claim to be familiar with Jordan Goodwin, but "excellent defender" and penning him into the rotation seems overly optimistic at this point.
People did it with Bazley, so this is to be expected.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:40 pm
by MightyMoog
What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:42 pm
by MightyMoog
I think Miami was unwilling to spend the draft capital it needed to offset cap relief that the Suns deal could provide.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:43 pm
by ShelC
Goodwin's a bit like Okogie, makes plays on the ball but his offense can be real rough. Also reminds me a bit of Ty-Shon Alexander too.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:43 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
MightyMoog wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:40 pm
What about Jerami Grant, Thybulle, Reddish and #3 for Ayton. Does Portland do that?
All of those guys are free agents, so it's not even possible even if they were dumb enough to try.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:45 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:38 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:35 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:32 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:30 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:29 pm
LOL. James Jones could hand you a winning Powerball ticket and you'd somehow figure out a way to not give him credit.
Stop me when I'm lying lol.
I don't believe the idea that Beal would only go to Phoenix.
Maybe, maybe not, but I'd be willing to bet Ishbia has more pull than JJ. There's also a chance Washington just preferred the cap room to whatever Miami was offering.
I'm sure you'll hand all the credit to James Jones when the next move that doesn't work out as planned pops up.
Honestly I can give him a break, whether I like the way the Suns are doing business or not, we've got as good a shot at a title as anyone else next year now.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:45 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:43 pm
Goodwin's a bit like Okogie, makes plays on the ball but his offense can be real rough. Also reminds me a bit of Ty-Shon Alexander too.
So basically, we hope he doesn't have to play real minutes in the Spring.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:47 pm
by Wally_West
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:50 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
That AST/TO ratio is promising. Maybe there's something with him, I'm just not holding my breath and not really interested in watching Wiz replays from last season to form a solid opinion right now.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:59 pm
by TOO
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:50 pm
That AST/TO ratio is promising. Maybe there's something with him, I'm just not holding my breath and not really interested in watching Wiz replays from last season to form a solid opinion right now.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:01 pm
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pm
You can hear the collective wailing from Wizards nation. What an awful trade for them.
Does Jones get any respect from you for this?
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:02 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Ah yes, a highlight package against the Charlotte Hornets.
Seriously though, I like his measurables and contract. He's not an insignificant addition to the trade.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:04 pm
by TOO
Welp it's not like he's got much else to look at lol.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:08 pm
by Superbone
Now the Shamet contract makes sense. Jones was playing the long game.

Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:45 pm
by virtual9mm
This is highway robbery. Almost makes up for the lopsidedness of the Durant trade.
How can the Suns build a roster around the Triumvirate? I think that everyone knows the Suns will trade Ayton, so the pickings will be slim. I suspect that they'll end up having to keep him and do what Jeremy suggests.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:51 pm
by JeremyG
We could try to trade Payne into cap space, and not have to pay him anything.
Re: Suns Trade For Beal!
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:51 pm
by JeremyG