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Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:15 pm
by virtual9mm
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:01 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:25 pm
Here's another attack that I just don't think works. They like to show video of her laughing as though it were a bad thing. I think they should try showing some of these theoretical attack videos to some more moderate folks before posting them. Laughing is not a bad thing! And there is nothing wrong with her laugh. I don't know what they think is wrong with a clip like this. She is experiencing joy, and laughing. They seem to think this is a good line of attack. I really think you would only think that if you just deeply dislike her already and are already likely to find anything she does distasteful.
Just shows how desperate they are.
Someone described her as "your fun aunt after two drinks on Thanksgiving". The one that you make fun of in a friendly way.
The guy who turns that friendly ribbing into a mean hearted joke is actually the real asshole.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:17 pm
by virtual9mm
And...polling is essentially tied, one has Kamala up two points, the other two has her down one and two points. All within the margin of error.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:32 pm
by Superbone
I really feel a circa 2007-2008 Obama style excitement coming over the country. It seems that young voters are getting energized. I hope it continues to build up to the election.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:57 pm
by Superbone
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:58 pm
by Superbone
The Simpsons are always right.

Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:59 pm
by Superbone
Man card? Really?

Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:02 pm
by specialsauce
Thanks guys. I recognize that it's first world problem crying. Our kids won't ever be starving. We have a nice life and enjoy some nice things that we've earned. However we are in a position where we're kind of unfairly expected to carry the burden, as the middle class and lower class don't have the means and shouldn't have to, yet the upper class have the accountants to cheat the system with all the loopholes designed to help them.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:33 pm
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:12 am
Will it? I mean, she was selected from a pool of equally well-qualified folks because of her demographics.
I don't agree with that statement and I don't think most people would agree with it. I'll happily concede that demographics played a part in the decision, but I don't think it's right to reduce her qualifications down to only that.
Demographics factor into lots of decisions, like whether Biden should step aside (age) or who Kamala should pick as her running mate (likely a straight white male). But there's a difference between that and being a "DEI Hire."
Unfortunately, Biden reduced her qualifications down to only that, when he said he "was only considering those candidates". I hate that it became that. She could have been a fine candidate without saying that.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:07 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:12 am
Will it? I mean, she was selected from a pool of equally well-qualified folks because of her demographics.
I don't agree with that statement and I don't think most people would agree with it. I'll happily concede that demographics played a part in the decision, but I don't think it's right to reduce her qualifications down to only that.
Demographics factor into lots of decisions, like whether Biden should step aside (age) or who Kamala should pick as her running mate (likely a straight white male). But there's a difference between that and being a "DEI Hire."
Unfortunately, Biden reduced her qualifications down to only that, when he said he "was only considering those candidates". I hate that it became that. She could have been a fine candidate without saying that.
She IS a fine candidate no matter what anybody says.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:13 pm
by In2ition
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:07 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:12 am
Will it? I mean, she was selected from a pool of equally well-qualified folks because of her demographics.
I don't agree with that statement and I don't think most people would agree with it. I'll happily concede that demographics played a part in the decision, but I don't think it's right to reduce her qualifications down to only that.
Demographics factor into lots of decisions, like whether Biden should step aside (age) or who Kamala should pick as her running mate (likely a straight white male). But there's a difference between that and being a "DEI Hire."
Unfortunately, Biden reduced her qualifications down to only that, when he said he "was only considering those candidates". I hate that it became that. She could have been a fine candidate without saying that.
She IS a fine candidate no matter what anybody says.
I am hiring a guitar player for my son's wedding for $110K for the one night gig, but I'm only considering phx-suns.net posters named Mori.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:34 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:07 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:12 am
Will it? I mean, she was selected from a pool of equally well-qualified folks because of her demographics.
I don't agree with that statement and I don't think most people would agree with it. I'll happily concede that demographics played a part in the decision, but I don't think it's right to reduce her qualifications down to only that.
Demographics factor into lots of decisions, like whether Biden should step aside (age) or who Kamala should pick as her running mate (likely a straight white male). But there's a difference between that and being a "DEI Hire."
Unfortunately, Biden reduced her qualifications down to only that, when he said he "was only considering those candidates". I hate that it became that. She could have been a fine candidate without saying that.
She IS a fine candidate no matter what anybody says.
Both things are true.
She was 100% a DEI hire. Biden made sure to announce that. If her name was Kevin Harris, he wouldn't have considered "him."
She is a very accomplished attorney and politician with a long list of credentials.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:47 pm
by Nodack
I agree. All politicians pander. Biden wanted to get elected and hired a minority woman to be his VP because he thought she might be able to add women/minority votes and push him over the top. She was already accomplished and even a rival for the same job. She is legit as they come.
Biden trying to pay off student loans backfired. People like Saucy that didn’t get their loans paid off were pissed off. Courts have held up the ones that were to be paid off. The Israel/Gaza war has stripped Biden of a lot of young voters as well.
Trump just asked the oil industry for a billion dollars in return for any legislation they want. If that isn’t pandering, I don’t know what is. Maga thinks Trump is for the little guy, not the rich guys. All the super rich guys are endorsing Trump.
The democrats have done jack shit for healthcare since Obamacare was started and they just blame the republicans for it instead of coming up with some centrist solution.
Obamacare was started and we had Universal Healthcare. Then the Republicans stripped the requirements away and neutered it as much as they could promising every day that they would dismantle Obamacare the first chance they got. Every Dem President for the last several have tried to overhaul our health care system and every time they were met with stiff resistance from the right. Obamacare was the first time they broke through because they had a super majority.
The Dems should have come up with a centrist solution? The Cons are guaranteed to be against ANY solution. They were asked to be part of the plan. They refused. They promised their own plan to compete with Obamacare that would be better. No plan ever came out. Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare with something much better. Turns out he had no plan. We have been waiting decades for any sort of plan from the Republicans that would make healthcare affordable and accessible to every American and like always they have nothing. But blame the Dems. They failed at Universal Health care. At least they tried. Republicans will never take up the subject unless it involves repealing something.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:42 pm
by Nodack
Can you imagine if both sides got together and tried to come up with bipartisan legislation all the time that benefited as many Americans as possible? I know, good one.
I just now came up with a plan to change our legislative process. Right now our elected officials write Bills and send them through Congress. They have to pass the house and senate and then be signed by the President to become law. I would argue that that system has some serious flaws to it. To help them decide how they should vote there are over 12,000 lobbyists in Washington working closely along side our elected officials making sure they make “informed” decisions. Each bill gets a crap load of pork attached to it from politicians signing their name to it for a price. Now we have a total meltdown where nothing much is getting done because of politics.
My solution is to make it similar to a court of law. 12 jurists decide if a Bill passes and goes to the President. The pro and con side of a bill present their case to the jurists, who are all just everyday Americans just like a regular court of law. An interesting idea at least.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:51 pm
by Nodack
And here come the first wave of attacks on Kamala.
Tennessee Republican files articles of impeachment against Harris
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788 ... la-harris/
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:03 am
by Mori Chu
So dumb. I don't know why they think they can accomplish anything by trying and failing to impeach Kamala.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:09 am
by Mori Chu
They just can't help themselves saying ignorant things about Kamala.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:35 am
by Mori Chu
There is some question as to whether or not Biden actually appointed Kamala as the "border czar." I distinctly remember hearing that he did so, but did he? I haven't done a deep dive to get a conclusive answer. Now some media outlets are saying this is false. (Noteworthy that in the replies to the very tweet below, people point to other Axios articles where they DO call her the "border czar.")
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:42 am
by BigLewy
It was laughably the same author that called her the border czar that is now claiming she wasn't. And people wonder why trust in the media is in the toilet.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:56 am
by Mori Chu
Yeah this community note is a real owning. There's a difference between Axios *calling* her the "border czar" and her actually being given some kind of appointment, but I agree that it's sloppy.
Re: Harris 2024
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:09 am
by Mori Chu
Tim Walz, governor of Minnesota, is another potential VP pick. He speaks well and is from a swing state. Just thought I'd mention him since he is being discussed.